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its shocking that so many online job apps ask you for your race, gender, sexuality (?!?) and health/disability status. and with a straight face ALSO say they Pr

its shocking that so many online job apps ask you for your race, gender, sexuality (?!?) and health/disability status. and with a straight face ALSO say they Promise-Pinky-Swear to not use the answers to discriminate against you uh huh 1. you cant know whether they will or not. you're pointing a gun at your head, pulling a trigger and hoping a bullet doesnt come out 2. even if they dont, you've just shared that data with strangers. and data lives forever and can leak out to anywhere else, replicating endlessly. ultimately ending up in Enemy Hands (defined here as folks who dont mean you well & plan to act on it), and thus, used to hurt you 3. if you give a false answer on a job app they can later cite it as cause for firing you. ie. it givea the biz HR/legal dept yet another gun they can point at your head, financially and legally its a de facto Scam right out in the open. relying on enough people to fall for it, and believe their Spin. nobody should play along with it ps. and yes I know its "required" by "law" in some cases. it doesnt change the point and the tangible impacts of it. it doesnt make it NOT creepy, dangerous and immoral. evil is evil

faeriechangling 3y ago
>if you give a false answer on a job app they can later cite it as cause for firing you. Lying about being disabled on a job applications is not considered legal cause for firing somebody in many jurisdictions. It's still rather career-limiting to start an employment relationship with somebody by LYING to them though, and employers can simply not follow the law and fire you anyways and it will hardly be worth suing them for damages, so this is cold comfort. I have counselled many extremely naive disabled teenager and 20 somethings about disability discrimination and how to get past it and get a job, generally talking to those who have some ability to hide it but would be much more productive and live a higher quality of life with accomidiation: - If you're going to reveal being disabled do it through a recruiter who will match you with employers who are looking to fill a quota or whatever. Or do it if you know the people hiring you and know they will respond well. - If you can hide being disabled, don't ask for any accommodation, and hide being disabled for at least long enough to get through a probationary period at which point people will be hesitant to retaliate against you because of the sunk costs and everybody involved in hiring you wanting to save face. This is usually what I usually end up recommending. - Where you are disabled, can live without accommodations indefinitely, and want to climb the ladder - never say that you're disabled or ask for accomidations. You will be discriminated against for being disabled and then discriminated against again over the perception that you must be a diversity hire.

faeriechangling 3y ago

>if you give a false answer on a job app they can later cite it as cause for firing you. Lying about being disabled on a job applications is not considered legal cause for firing somebody in many jurisdictions. It's still rather career-limiting to start an employment relationship with somebody by LYING to them though, and employers can simply not follow the law and fire you anyways and it will hardly be worth suing them for damages, so this is cold comfort. I have counselled many extremely naive disabled teenager and 20 somethings about disability discrimination and how to get past it and get a job, generally talking to those who have some ability to hide it but would be much more productive and live a higher quality of life with accomidiation: - If you're going to reveal being disabled do it through a recruiter who will match you with employers who are looking to fill a quota or whatever. Or do it if you know the people hiring you and know they will respond well. - If you can hide being disabled, don't ask for any accommodation, and hide being disabled for at least long enough to get through a probationary period at which point people will be hesitant to retaliate against you because of the sunk costs and everybody involved in hiring you wanting to save face. This is usually what I usually end up recommending. - Where you are disabled, can live without accommodations indefinitely, and want to climb the ladder - never say that you're disabled or ask for accomidations. You will be discriminated against for being disabled and then discriminated against again over the perception that you must be a diversity hire.