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It's not dumb to suggest the existence of humans might be unsustainable for the entire planet at this point, and it might be a net good if we don't take everyth

It's not dumb to suggest the existence of humans might be unsustainable for the entire planet at this point, and it might be a net good if we don't take everything with us. I don't agree with it, but it's not dumb. Where do we even fix the issue in the U.S. right now? Solar is still out of reach for a lot of people and states refuse to subsidize it. Everything is built so far apart that we need cars. We can't correct our farming practices without starving the country. It's not even nihilism, it's just that we don't have any realistic options right now.

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ben_w 3y ago
Convince enough voting Americans that America isn't #1 at everything and can in fact learn from other nations and improve things by copying what they do. For example, the low-end supermarket brand here in Berlin actually sells fresh fruit and vegetables, so we don't get the "food deserts" that the US suffers from (or if they do exist, nowhere near as severely): https://www.aldi-nord.de/sortiment/obst-und-gemuese.html https://www.aldi-nord.de/sortiment/obst-und-gemuese.html They also sell micro-PV systems for people renting apartments: https://www.aldi-onlineshop.de/p/plug--play-balkon-kraftwerk-1027953/?searchQueryId=7a844d2ddc7a4be6b9c79a634cf50220 https://www.aldi-onlineshop.de/p/plug--play-balkon-kraftwerk... And a nation-wide (non-express) public transport pass costs €49/month.
PoignardAzur 3y ago
Man, it's going to suck when the world ends in a fiery ball of death because some americans somewhere decided "Meh, we'll never fix the problems in this country, not worth trying".
- Capricorn2481 3y ago
  Then you misunderstand my comment. The point is not to say we shouldn't try, the point is that we need to get real about what needs to be done. If we approach everything from "How do we fix this without inconveniencing ourselves, because we're the most important thing on this planet?" then we are screwed.

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ben_w 3y ago

Convince enough voting Americans that America isn't #1 at everything and can in fact learn from other nations and improve things by copying what they do. For example, the low-end supermarket brand here in Berlin actually sells fresh fruit and vegetables, so we don't get the "food deserts" that the US suffers from (or if they do exist, nowhere near as severely): https://www.aldi-nord.de/sortiment/obst-und-gemuese.html https://www.aldi-nord.de/sortiment/obst-und-gemuese.html They also sell micro-PV systems for people renting apartments: https://www.aldi-onlineshop.de/p/plug--play-balkon-kraftwerk-1027953/?searchQueryId=7a844d2ddc7a4be6b9c79a634cf50220 https://www.aldi-onlineshop.de/p/plug--play-balkon-kraftwerk... And a nation-wide (non-express) public transport pass costs €49/month.

PoignardAzur 3y ago

Man, it's going to suck when the world ends in a fiery ball of death because some americans somewhere decided "Meh, we'll never fix the problems in this country, not worth trying".

Capricorn2481 3y ago
Then you misunderstand my comment. The point is not to say we shouldn't try, the point is that we need to get real about what needs to be done. If we approach everything from "How do we fix this without inconveniencing ourselves, because we're the most important thing on this planet?" then we are screwed.