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This is the dumbest statement i’ve ever seen. You would prefer to have all your fellow humans die to save the planet. I’m all for improving things and lookin

This is the dumbest statement i’ve ever seen. You would prefer to have all your fellow humans die to save the planet. I’m all for improving things and looking for solutions to the problems we created, but this dumb nihilism serves nothing. If you think that humans are the problem and we should cease existing, why aren’t you in the ground already?

Sightline 3y ago
>why aren’t you in the ground already? That's the dumbest statement i've ever seen, why are you equating 1 person to 8 billion people?
- decremental 3y ago
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- johncolanduoni 3y ago
  You wouldn’t take someone who proposed any other climate intervention they wouldn’t commit to themselves seriously, would you?
  - squeaky-clean 3y ago
    Individual death is not the same as an extinction. And after doing so they wouldn't be able to spread their idea, they'd be removing themselves from any ability to intervene. A more appropriate response that still points out their absurdity would be to ask why they aren't committing any mass murders.
Capricorn2481 3y ago
It's not dumb to suggest the existence of humans might be unsustainable for the entire planet at this point, and it might be a net good if we don't take everything with us. I don't agree with it, but it's not dumb. Where do we even fix the issue in the U.S. right now? Solar is still out of reach for a lot of people and states refuse to subsidize it. Everything is built so far apart that we need cars. We can't correct our farming practices without starving the country. It's not even nihilism, it's just that we don't have any realistic options right now.
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- ben_w 3y ago
  Convince enough voting Americans that America isn't #1 at everything and can in fact learn from other nations and improve things by copying what they do. For example, the low-end supermarket brand here in Berlin actually sells fresh fruit and vegetables, so we don't get the "food deserts" that the US suffers from (or if they do exist, nowhere near as severely): https://www.aldi-nord.de/sortiment/obst-und-gemuese.html https://www.aldi-nord.de/sortiment/obst-und-gemuese.html They also sell micro-PV systems for people renting apartments: https://www.aldi-onlineshop.de/p/plug--play-balkon-kraftwerk-1027953/?searchQueryId=7a844d2ddc7a4be6b9c79a634cf50220 https://www.aldi-onlineshop.de/p/plug--play-balkon-kraftwerk... And a nation-wide (non-express) public transport pass costs €49/month.
- PoignardAzur 3y ago
  Man, it's going to suck when the world ends in a fiery ball of death because some americans somewhere decided "Meh, we'll never fix the problems in this country, not worth trying".
  - Capricorn2481 3y ago
    Then you misunderstand my comment. The point is not to say we shouldn't try, the point is that we need to get real about what needs to be done. If we approach everything from "How do we fix this without inconveniencing ourselves, because we're the most important thing on this planet?" then we are screwed.
DandyDev 3y ago
I asked a question, I didn't indicate preference. Also, if my statement is the dumbest you have ever seen, you haven't seen many statements....

Sightline 3y ago

>why aren’t you in the ground already? That's the dumbest statement i've ever seen, why are you equating 1 person to 8 billion people?

decremental 3y ago
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johncolanduoni 3y ago
You wouldn’t take someone who proposed any other climate intervention they wouldn’t commit to themselves seriously, would you?
- squeaky-clean 3y ago
  Individual death is not the same as an extinction. And after doing so they wouldn't be able to spread their idea, they'd be removing themselves from any ability to intervene. A more appropriate response that still points out their absurdity would be to ask why they aren't committing any mass murders.

Capricorn2481 3y ago

It's not dumb to suggest the existence of humans might be unsustainable for the entire planet at this point, and it might be a net good if we don't take everything with us. I don't agree with it, but it's not dumb. Where do we even fix the issue in the U.S. right now? Solar is still out of reach for a lot of people and states refuse to subsidize it. Everything is built so far apart that we need cars. We can't correct our farming practices without starving the country. It's not even nihilism, it's just that we don't have any realistic options right now.

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ben_w 3y ago
Convince enough voting Americans that America isn't #1 at everything and can in fact learn from other nations and improve things by copying what they do. For example, the low-end supermarket brand here in Berlin actually sells fresh fruit and vegetables, so we don't get the "food deserts" that the US suffers from (or if they do exist, nowhere near as severely): https://www.aldi-nord.de/sortiment/obst-und-gemuese.html https://www.aldi-nord.de/sortiment/obst-und-gemuese.html They also sell micro-PV systems for people renting apartments: https://www.aldi-onlineshop.de/p/plug--play-balkon-kraftwerk-1027953/?searchQueryId=7a844d2ddc7a4be6b9c79a634cf50220 https://www.aldi-onlineshop.de/p/plug--play-balkon-kraftwerk... And a nation-wide (non-express) public transport pass costs €49/month.
PoignardAzur 3y ago
Man, it's going to suck when the world ends in a fiery ball of death because some americans somewhere decided "Meh, we'll never fix the problems in this country, not worth trying".
- Capricorn2481 3y ago
  Then you misunderstand my comment. The point is not to say we shouldn't try, the point is that we need to get real about what needs to be done. If we approach everything from "How do we fix this without inconveniencing ourselves, because we're the most important thing on this planet?" then we are screwed.

DandyDev 3y ago

I asked a question, I didn't indicate preference. Also, if my statement is the dumbest you have ever seen, you haven't seen many statements....