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Honestly, he’s a step away from claiming global warming is a hoax…

by akmarinov 3y ago

louison11 3y ago
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- dpkirchner 3y ago
  There isn't much here to discuss. What does "solid, truly scientific proof" look like to you, and what would researchers need to do to meet that standard?
- bdcravens 3y ago
  Musk isn't dumb, but he's a visionary entrepreneur, not a scientist. Referencing "smart people" as an appeal to authority is a very weak argument. A brilliant attorney isn't qualified to work on my code either. As for questioning science, that's literally the purpose of science. It should be done via better science, not hero worship.
- foogazi 3y ago
  On what evidence do you base your thoughts on ?
- gremlinsinc 3y ago
  > Of course, we have an ecological problem and we do need to address it: there is no question that we are responsible for deforestation, plastics in the ocean, and the extinction of species. Deforestation alone has caused parts of climate change, so by that fact alone you contradict yourself. you can't say people are responsible for deforestation, deforestation causes climate change, but people are not a cause of climate change. Plastics in ocean maybe affects plankton levels and other things that could take carbon out of the atmosphere, etc. Scientists are lately claiming that we're moving even faster to bad situations than originally scheduled, most likely because to be more alarmist even if accurate would upset some people in powerful positions, like Galileo pissing off the Catholic Church etc... What event would it take for your to say human caused climate change is real?
sholladay 3y ago
He has been trying to convince people that global warming is not a hoax for decades. Where does your mindset come from when it is about as close to the opposite of reality as you can get? Is it just because you don't like the guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKCuDxpccYM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKCuDxpccYM I get that he is controversial. There are plenty of things to criticize Musk for. We can talk about factory conditions, replacing humans with robots, various political takes... But lumping him in with climate change deniers? That is so bonkers to me.
- rozal 3y ago
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- akmarinov 3y ago
  I did say he is a step away. He’s had a big turn to conservative ideas, embracing all of them, he regularly peddles outlandish conspiracy theories. That’s why I say he’s almost about to turn on all his years of “energy revolution” and pump out gas guzzlers or something.

Honestly, he’s a step away from claiming global warming is a hoax…

louison11 3y ago

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dpkirchner 3y ago
There isn't much here to discuss. What does "solid, truly scientific proof" look like to you, and what would researchers need to do to meet that standard?
bdcravens 3y ago
Musk isn't dumb, but he's a visionary entrepreneur, not a scientist. Referencing "smart people" as an appeal to authority is a very weak argument. A brilliant attorney isn't qualified to work on my code either. As for questioning science, that's literally the purpose of science. It should be done via better science, not hero worship.
foogazi 3y ago
On what evidence do you base your thoughts on ?
gremlinsinc 3y ago
> Of course, we have an ecological problem and we do need to address it: there is no question that we are responsible for deforestation, plastics in the ocean, and the extinction of species. Deforestation alone has caused parts of climate change, so by that fact alone you contradict yourself. you can't say people are responsible for deforestation, deforestation causes climate change, but people are not a cause of climate change. Plastics in ocean maybe affects plankton levels and other things that could take carbon out of the atmosphere, etc. Scientists are lately claiming that we're moving even faster to bad situations than originally scheduled, most likely because to be more alarmist even if accurate would upset some people in powerful positions, like Galileo pissing off the Catholic Church etc... What event would it take for your to say human caused climate change is real?

sholladay 3y ago

He has been trying to convince people that global warming is not a hoax for decades. Where does your mindset come from when it is about as close to the opposite of reality as you can get? Is it just because you don't like the guy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKCuDxpccYM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKCuDxpccYM I get that he is controversial. There are plenty of things to criticize Musk for. We can talk about factory conditions, replacing humans with robots, various political takes... But lumping him in with climate change deniers? That is so bonkers to me.

rozal 3y ago
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akmarinov 3y ago
I did say he is a step away. He’s had a big turn to conservative ideas, embracing all of them, he regularly peddles outlandish conspiracy theories. That’s why I say he’s almost about to turn on all his years of “energy revolution” and pump out gas guzzlers or something.