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Do you approve, or even know about your current company’s CEO?

by kaba0 3y ago

insanitybit 3y ago
"Other person is bad" is not an excuse, especially when your entire company's position is "we're not those guys".
- kaba0 3y ago
  My point was - the vast majority of people don’t care or even know about their CEO. Why is it suddenly a problem with Mozilla?
  - raincole 3y ago
    OR bad leadership is a problem with a lot of companies, but this thread just happens to be about Mozilla?
  - insanitybit 3y ago
    That's a bad point for a lot of reasons. 1. It's irrelevant, as I pointed out. 2. It's a false premise. We talk about bad CEOs all the time, especially egregiously bad ones. I saw only just the other day comments on the Yahoo CEO.
  - omginternets 3y ago
    That doesn’t track with my experience at all, so it seems like the kind of place where hard numbers would help you make your point.
meiraleal 3y ago
Firefox users are known for defending it as a moral alternative to Chrome even though currently it is so behind in feature and performance. It makes no sense to defend Firefox if it is just a cash cow for some disconnected-from-reality leeches.
- kaba0 3y ago
  > it is so behind in feature and performance I would like to see a source on that. Even if it were actually worse of from a technical standpoint, do you not see the huge value of an independent implementation of the most crucial platform of humanity? Should it really be controlled by a single giga-corp?
  - meiraleal 3y ago
    I saw the huge value of it when it started and for a long time, now this is just an excuse for the privileged ones milking Mozilla to continue doing so. The market being controlled by a single giga-corp or shared with a paid fake competitor I would prefer the giga-corp so it becomes more obvious that we need to fund a real alternative, not waste money on what Mozilla became.
- ako 3y ago
  I use Firefox everywhere, MacOS, windows, iPad iOS. Not sure what features I am missing out on. I don’t use any plugins, mostly happy with performance, no complaints about current feature set regarding tabs. I really don’t have a wishlist of things I’d like to see improved. Faster and less resource consumption would be nice, but not super urgent. What am I missing?
  - elcritch 3y ago
    I find that Firefox consistently uses less memory. It might be a bit slower on some things, but the slimmer better memory usage is nice.
  - kaba0 3y ago
    You actually use safari on iPad and iOS, as it only has browser skins with a safari widget. (JIT compilation is a more restricted permission not given to AppStore apps)
- nulld3v 3y ago
  The performance is fine on desktop, maybe even on par with Chrome. It used to be worse but nowadays I can't see any performance difference between Firefox and Chrome on desktop. The performance on Android is garbage though :(. The feature set is worse in some parts, better in others. Better UI customization, container tabs is cool, and some extended APIs for extensions. Meanwhile, Chrome has support for more exotic web APIs (e.g. WebUSB, filesystem access). So it's your choice.
devnullbrain 3y ago
What a strange reply. Most people on this site do know their CEO and are able and willing to leave jobs when they disagree with their direction. I have done it myself.
itronitron 3y ago
I think a better question would be whether I approve or even know about Mozilla's CEO. I don't know a thing about Mozilla's current CEO, and I don't give a shit about them either. I still use Firefox and haven't used Chrome in many years.

Do you approve, or even know about your current company’s CEO?

by kaba0 3y ago

Do you approve, or even know about your current company’s CEO?

insanitybit 3y ago

"Other person is bad" is not an excuse, especially when your entire company's position is "we're not those guys".

kaba0 3y ago
My point was - the vast majority of people don’t care or even know about their CEO. Why is it suddenly a problem with Mozilla?
- raincole 3y ago
  OR bad leadership is a problem with a lot of companies, but this thread just happens to be about Mozilla?
- insanitybit 3y ago
  That's a bad point for a lot of reasons. 1. It's irrelevant, as I pointed out. 2. It's a false premise. We talk about bad CEOs all the time, especially egregiously bad ones. I saw only just the other day comments on the Yahoo CEO.
- omginternets 3y ago
  That doesn’t track with my experience at all, so it seems like the kind of place where hard numbers would help you make your point.

meiraleal 3y ago

Firefox users are known for defending it as a moral alternative to Chrome even though currently it is so behind in feature and performance. It makes no sense to defend Firefox if it is just a cash cow for some disconnected-from-reality leeches.

kaba0 3y ago
> it is so behind in feature and performance I would like to see a source on that. Even if it were actually worse of from a technical standpoint, do you not see the huge value of an independent implementation of the most crucial platform of humanity? Should it really be controlled by a single giga-corp?
- meiraleal 3y ago
  I saw the huge value of it when it started and for a long time, now this is just an excuse for the privileged ones milking Mozilla to continue doing so. The market being controlled by a single giga-corp or shared with a paid fake competitor I would prefer the giga-corp so it becomes more obvious that we need to fund a real alternative, not waste money on what Mozilla became.
ako 3y ago
I use Firefox everywhere, MacOS, windows, iPad iOS. Not sure what features I am missing out on. I don’t use any plugins, mostly happy with performance, no complaints about current feature set regarding tabs. I really don’t have a wishlist of things I’d like to see improved. Faster and less resource consumption would be nice, but not super urgent. What am I missing?
- elcritch 3y ago
  I find that Firefox consistently uses less memory. It might be a bit slower on some things, but the slimmer better memory usage is nice.
- kaba0 3y ago
  You actually use safari on iPad and iOS, as it only has browser skins with a safari widget. (JIT compilation is a more restricted permission not given to AppStore apps)
nulld3v 3y ago
The performance is fine on desktop, maybe even on par with Chrome. It used to be worse but nowadays I can't see any performance difference between Firefox and Chrome on desktop. The performance on Android is garbage though :(. The feature set is worse in some parts, better in others. Better UI customization, container tabs is cool, and some extended APIs for extensions. Meanwhile, Chrome has support for more exotic web APIs (e.g. WebUSB, filesystem access). So it's your choice.

devnullbrain 3y ago

What a strange reply. Most people on this site do know their CEO and are able and willing to leave jobs when they disagree with their direction. I have done it myself.

itronitron 3y ago

I think a better question would be whether I approve or even know about Mozilla's CEO. I don't know a thing about Mozilla's current CEO, and I don't give a shit about them either. I still use Firefox and haven't used Chrome in many years.