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Sorry, this was the common excuse for years. It just doesn't fly any more now that FireFox market share has shrunk to irrelevance. By every available statistic

Sorry, this was the common excuse for years. It just doesn't fly any more now that FireFox market share has shrunk to irrelevance. By every available statistic, Chrome has more than 80 percent of the "free market" --- i.e. the market outside of Apple's walled garden where it has only recently become a realistic option.

jacquesm 3y ago
No, it works just fine like that. The ideal outcome is for FireFox to continue to exist with a very small marketshare. That's enough for the FigLeaf function and not enough for Google to worry about killing it off any further. And contrary to the other time when a monopolist kept their competition alive I don't think this one is going to end with FireFox reversing its fate and ending up with market dominance after a surprise success.
- eastbound 3y ago
  It only exists because people with an ideal keep trying to stay as users. Ideals die hard, so the long trail will be long, but Firefox is effectively as niche as Linux on the desktop.
  - jacquesm 3y ago
    Fortunately for me I have both FF and Linux on the desktop. Now that they've finally fixed web midi even that reason to have Chrome has gone away.
    - jqpabc123 3y ago
      I suspect that most remaining FF users are running it on Linux desktop.
      - pseudalopex 3y ago
        Most Firefox requests to Wikimedia sites say Windows.[1] [1] https://analytics.wikimedia.org/dashboards/browsers/#all-sites-by-os-and-browser/os-browser-family-and-major-hierarchical-view https://analytics.wikimedia.org/dashboards/browsers/#all-sit...
      - KronisLV 3y ago
        > I suspect that most remaining FF users are running it on Linux desktop. Personally, I run it everywhere: on my phone, on my Windows desktop, on my Linux desktop, on my Linux netbook. Not even because of any particularly strongly held stances - it's just a nice browser that I like and it runs pretty well everywhere (plus the devtools are the most usable for me). That said, I'm fairly sure that the majority of Linux desktop users are also using Firefox, because it's typically the default browser in most distros.
      - deleted 3y ago
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      - dzonga 3y ago
        I run as default on my mac. used to run it as default on my android phone -- but ahh mozill doesn't care about it enough. pretty unstable

jacquesm 3y ago

No, it works just fine like that. The ideal outcome is for FireFox to continue to exist with a very small marketshare. That's enough for the FigLeaf function and not enough for Google to worry about killing it off any further. And contrary to the other time when a monopolist kept their competition alive I don't think this one is going to end with FireFox reversing its fate and ending up with market dominance after a surprise success.

eastbound 3y ago
It only exists because people with an ideal keep trying to stay as users. Ideals die hard, so the long trail will be long, but Firefox is effectively as niche as Linux on the desktop.
- jacquesm 3y ago
  Fortunately for me I have both FF and Linux on the desktop. Now that they've finally fixed web midi even that reason to have Chrome has gone away.
  - jqpabc123 3y ago
    I suspect that most remaining FF users are running it on Linux desktop.
    - pseudalopex 3y ago
      Most Firefox requests to Wikimedia sites say Windows.[1] [1] https://analytics.wikimedia.org/dashboards/browsers/#all-sites-by-os-and-browser/os-browser-family-and-major-hierarchical-view https://analytics.wikimedia.org/dashboards/browsers/#all-sit...
    - KronisLV 3y ago
      > I suspect that most remaining FF users are running it on Linux desktop. Personally, I run it everywhere: on my phone, on my Windows desktop, on my Linux desktop, on my Linux netbook. Not even because of any particularly strongly held stances - it's just a nice browser that I like and it runs pretty well everywhere (plus the devtools are the most usable for me). That said, I'm fairly sure that the majority of Linux desktop users are also using Firefox, because it's typically the default browser in most distros.
    - deleted 3y ago
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    - dzonga 3y ago
      I run as default on my mac. used to run it as default on my android phone -- but ahh mozill doesn't care about it enough. pretty unstable