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> It's such a strange thing to argue that a child who is poor would be better off never to have been born Someone who didn’t grow up poor will never understand

> It's such a strange thing to argue that a child who is poor would be better off never to have been born Someone who didn’t grow up poor will never understand this.

sneak 3y ago
It's the same reason we catch and fix stray cats. It's better that they not have kittens, than their kittens be born and starve to death. With people, it takes even longer and more suffering to die of poverty than one first winter.
- l3mure 3y ago
  Sounds almost like some old slogan, "life unworthy of life" was it?
- legutierr 3y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization
  - sneak 3y ago
    There is nothing dehumanizing about saying that any person in significant poverty, regardless of any membership in any demographic sector, should not have kids, because their kids are going to suffer. I'll go a step further and share my personal belief that no one should have kids. Children, while traditional, are nevertheless (and this fact seems to be inconvenient to many) optional. Every human has the choice available to them to not have children.
themaninthedark 3y ago
I grew up poor and I don't understand it either. Children a century ago had a high likelihood of dying before they were 5. Now, that risk is greatly diminished. At the same time, the standard of living has greatly increased across the board for rich and poor. I am sorry that you had a bad childhood. Future generations of children, even the poor will have it better.
- wiseowise 3y ago
  > I grew up poor and I don't understand it either. > Children a century ago had a high likelihood of dying before they were 5. Now, that risk is greatly diminished. I think our misunderstanding of each other comes from having different standards of what's considered good for child and what not. > I am sorry that you had a bad childhood. Future generations of children, even the poor will have it better. I never said that I had a bad childhood.

> It's such a strange thing to argue that a child who is poor would be better off never to have been born Someone who didn’t grow up poor will never understand this.

sneak 3y ago

It's the same reason we catch and fix stray cats. It's better that they not have kittens, than their kittens be born and starve to death. With people, it takes even longer and more suffering to die of poverty than one first winter.

l3mure 3y ago
Sounds almost like some old slogan, "life unworthy of life" was it?
legutierr 3y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dehumanization
- sneak 3y ago
  There is nothing dehumanizing about saying that any person in significant poverty, regardless of any membership in any demographic sector, should not have kids, because their kids are going to suffer. I'll go a step further and share my personal belief that no one should have kids. Children, while traditional, are nevertheless (and this fact seems to be inconvenient to many) optional. Every human has the choice available to them to not have children.

themaninthedark 3y ago

I grew up poor and I don't understand it either. Children a century ago had a high likelihood of dying before they were 5. Now, that risk is greatly diminished. At the same time, the standard of living has greatly increased across the board for rich and poor. I am sorry that you had a bad childhood. Future generations of children, even the poor will have it better.

wiseowise 3y ago
> I grew up poor and I don't understand it either. > Children a century ago had a high likelihood of dying before they were 5. Now, that risk is greatly diminished. I think our misunderstanding of each other comes from having different standards of what's considered good for child and what not. > I am sorry that you had a bad childhood. Future generations of children, even the poor will have it better. I never said that I had a bad childhood.