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The logical reasoning here, is that a poor person needs to become 'not-poor' to be able to have children responsibly. This greatly trivialises the reality of p
by lwhi 3y ago
The logical reasoning here, is that a poor person needs to become 'not-poor' to be able to have children responsibly.
This greatly trivialises the reality of poverty.
People aren't poor by choice; they're often poor through situations that are beyond their control.
To also suggest they're not allowed to have children because of these factors beyond their control is tantamount to an injustice.
- sneak 3y agoThis is like saying people with life threatening congenital defects not being allowed to have children because of factors beyond their control is an injustice. Nobody's stopping them, but it's still an irresponsible and terrible idea. We know that having children in poverty in the US leads to terrible health and educational outcomes for the children, just like we know that having children if you have extra chromosomes leads to terrible health and educational outcomes for the children. If you believe that poverty is truly outside of individual control, the situations are analogous. Life isn't fair, but that doesn't make responsible == irresponsible.
- lwhi 3y agoAbsolute nonsense. Extra chromosomes don't come about due to unjust political choices being made on behalf of parts of the electorate. Poverty is generally outside of the control of _those who suffer it_ largely because money brings power. Those without money naturally have less. Consider your views carefully, because at present they're definitely not worth reproducing.
- sneak 3y agoWe're not talking about the electorate, we're talking about individual people's decisions to have children. If you are impoverished (and thus unable to meaningfully effect change in the system that impoverished you) it is irresponsible and bad to have children because the outcomes for those children will be bad. You may decide that this state of affairs is bad, but that doesn't change the fact that it is still bad today to make an individual choice to have children in poverty.
- lwhi 3y agoOnly if you believe the only worthwhile thing in life is money.