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Definitely, it's this. The EU treats companies like they're horrible monsters, and then looks away when it does far worse shit. It's (the EU's) authoritative t

Definitely, it's this. The EU treats companies like they're horrible monsters, and then looks away when it does far worse shit. It's (the EU's) authoritative to companies by suppressing them with penalties and bueacratic laws, but allows itself (the governments and states) unending tolerance in whatever it does.

brabel 3y ago
> then looks away when it does far worse shit. > but allows itself (the governments and states) unending tolerance in whatever it does. Could you clarify what are these horrible things the EU has done that you're referring to?
- personomas 3y ago
  https://www.privacyaffairs.com/gdpr-fines/ https://www.privacyaffairs.com/gdpr-fines/ And soon what's coming is even worse: digital markets act. Which allows the EU to fine companies up to 10% of their yearly revenue. That's just the obvious stuff that I can write about. I live here and have experienced it personally how Germany treats businesses.
  - brabel 3y ago
    Ah, thanks for clarifying it: you're against GDPR! Difficult to sympathize, sorry. Being against encryption backdoors is very different from being against any legislation meant to actually protect privacy, and I find that the two are actually conflicting positions.
    - personomas 3y ago
      Then you really don't understand GDPR. GDPR is not about protecting privacy, GDPR is most of all about giving the legislator the opportunity to rip into businesses. Have you actually read GDPR? I have.
      - taway1237 3y ago
        I have read and helped implement GDPR in my country. It's the greatest thing that happened to online privacy, finally a law that has teeth and can influence big tech. It empowers me as a citizen and makes me feel my data has value again. I have high hopes digital markets act will be as good.
        personomas 3y ago
        You're crazy. Meanwhile our economies are literally beginning to shrink, our enemies are becoming stronger than us then going to war against us (Russia, Azerbaijan, Serbia, China, North Korea) and the world is on fire. But I am so happy your data is safe - like anyone gives a shit about you anyways.
        brabel 3y ago
        You should consider trying to be a bit less aggressive if you're actually trying to improve the world. It's because of some people having such extreme, aggressive behavior that conflicts (such as the ones you're complaining about) start.
        personomas 3y ago
        I don't think I'm being aggressive. I think you should be less presumptuous. It's hard to imagine that his data is so important, that he's so wanted, that people care about his so much, that GDPR will make any difference whatsoever on his life. On the contrary, the world is burning, clock is ticking, and you're complaining about me being aggressive on HN?
      - dotandgtfo 3y ago
        I don't think you understand GDPR as it is about protecting privacy. It is however true that a nice side-effect of GDPR is giving legislators the opportunity to rip into businesses that don't comply with it. 10/10, can't wait until the DMA and DSA gets kicked into gear too. Are you saying that you liked how Facebook and Google could cross-site track every single (logged-in or not) European and use that for targeted ads as well as share it with the NSA? Thank GDPR (and Apple) for stopping that around ~2018.

brabel 3y ago

> then looks away when it does far worse shit. > but allows itself (the governments and states) unending tolerance in whatever it does. Could you clarify what are these horrible things the EU has done that you're referring to?

personomas 3y ago
https://www.privacyaffairs.com/gdpr-fines/ https://www.privacyaffairs.com/gdpr-fines/ And soon what's coming is even worse: digital markets act. Which allows the EU to fine companies up to 10% of their yearly revenue. That's just the obvious stuff that I can write about. I live here and have experienced it personally how Germany treats businesses.
- brabel 3y ago
  Ah, thanks for clarifying it: you're against GDPR! Difficult to sympathize, sorry. Being against encryption backdoors is very different from being against any legislation meant to actually protect privacy, and I find that the two are actually conflicting positions.
  - personomas 3y ago
    Then you really don't understand GDPR. GDPR is not about protecting privacy, GDPR is most of all about giving the legislator the opportunity to rip into businesses. Have you actually read GDPR? I have.
    - taway1237 3y ago
      I have read and helped implement GDPR in my country. It's the greatest thing that happened to online privacy, finally a law that has teeth and can influence big tech. It empowers me as a citizen and makes me feel my data has value again. I have high hopes digital markets act will be as good.
      - personomas 3y ago
        You're crazy. Meanwhile our economies are literally beginning to shrink, our enemies are becoming stronger than us then going to war against us (Russia, Azerbaijan, Serbia, China, North Korea) and the world is on fire. But I am so happy your data is safe - like anyone gives a shit about you anyways.
        brabel 3y ago
        You should consider trying to be a bit less aggressive if you're actually trying to improve the world. It's because of some people having such extreme, aggressive behavior that conflicts (such as the ones you're complaining about) start.
        personomas 3y ago
        I don't think I'm being aggressive. I think you should be less presumptuous. It's hard to imagine that his data is so important, that he's so wanted, that people care about his so much, that GDPR will make any difference whatsoever on his life. On the contrary, the world is burning, clock is ticking, and you're complaining about me being aggressive on HN?
    - dotandgtfo 3y ago
      I don't think you understand GDPR as it is about protecting privacy. It is however true that a nice side-effect of GDPR is giving legislators the opportunity to rip into businesses that don't comply with it. 10/10, can't wait until the DMA and DSA gets kicked into gear too. Are you saying that you liked how Facebook and Google could cross-site track every single (logged-in or not) European and use that for targeted ads as well as share it with the NSA? Thank GDPR (and Apple) for stopping that around ~2018.