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Well, again coming from a "female choice" perspective, young Chinese women are striving to have careers (or at least fun) before starting a family. They are be

Well, again coming from a "female choice" perspective, young Chinese women are striving to have careers (or at least fun) before starting a family. They are being told to do this, and most people conform to expectations. (Choice doesn't mean fully independent first-principles decision making.) The rhetoric is still about "increasing female labor force participation".[1] For clarity, the thing you do first is your priority. This is known as "revealed preference" in economics. And careers are individual things, not collective. Also for background, fertility declines secularly from mid-teens to mid forties where it goes to zero. Waiting has two costs: you have fewer years in which to have children, and you are less likely to have them in each year. (There is a third one in increased risk of congenital illness in the child too.) Nearly every woman knows these things. 1. https://thechinaproject.com/2022/03/08/women-at-work-in-china-in-2022/ https://thechinaproject.com/2022/03/08/women-at-work-in-chin...

wkat4242 3y ago
So.. The answer is not giving women any choice and have them produce babies on demand? Can you really not see how this doesn't work in modern society? Women fought hard to have rights.
- wesapien 3y ago
  Where and what era you talking about this women baby machines?
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    Depends on the country. In Holland this was about up until WWII. After that in Catholic areas. My dad was born after the war and from a family of 7. In other countries it continued even longer.
    - wesapien 3y ago
      What does on demand mean exactly? Where they coerced?
      - wkat4242 3y ago
        Yes. By society (married women had to give up their government jobs until into the 60s!) and by the church. After a couple had their last kid about a year ago they'd get a visit from the priest to remind them there was still more 'work' to be done..
ffgjgf1 3y ago
> Chinese Exceptionally idiotic communist policies probably played a much bigger role. At least initially. If you ban families from having more than a single child and perform forced abortions or impose massive fines on those that dare to have a second one. Well.. I’m not sure what else you could expect

wkat4242 3y ago

So.. The answer is not giving women any choice and have them produce babies on demand? Can you really not see how this doesn't work in modern society? Women fought hard to have rights.

wesapien 3y ago
Where and what era you talking about this women baby machines?
- wkat4242 3y ago
  Depends on the country. In Holland this was about up until WWII. After that in Catholic areas. My dad was born after the war and from a family of 7. In other countries it continued even longer.
  - wesapien 3y ago
    What does on demand mean exactly? Where they coerced?
    - wkat4242 3y ago
      Yes. By society (married women had to give up their government jobs until into the 60s!) and by the church. After a couple had their last kid about a year ago they'd get a visit from the priest to remind them there was still more 'work' to be done..

ffgjgf1 3y ago

> Chinese Exceptionally idiotic communist policies probably played a much bigger role. At least initially. If you ban families from having more than a single child and perform forced abortions or impose massive fines on those that dare to have a second one. Well.. I’m not sure what else you could expect