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American cities are poorly legislated and suffer from a tragedy of the commons when it comes to basic public needs like restrooms. We have deep seated issues th
by stemlord 3y ago
American cities are poorly legislated and suffer from a tragedy of the commons when it comes to basic public needs like restrooms. We have deep seated issues that keep us from being able to have nice things like that.
- xyzelement 3y agoI can't recall the last time I've been to a cafe in the US without a bathroom. Perhaps we don't legislate this stuff because we don't have the problem?
- joenot443 3y agoA lot of European countries I've been to suffer an even worse result - restaurants are legally allowed to _charge_ already paying customers to use a restroom. Coming from Canada, I can never imagine treating your patrons like that.
- Agingcoder 3y agoWhich countries ? I’ve never been to a place where as an already paying customer I had to pay for the restroom. You often do see signs ‘customers only’ on the restroom though.
- joenot443 3y agoIf I recall, it was fast food type joints in Netherlands and Germany. What blew my mind was that these places would employ someone to actually stand guard at the washrooms and collect payment. Wild behavior, in my opinion.
- Scarblac 3y agoWhat country? I've never experienced this in any European country I've been to. Edit: no, once. The McDonald's in the Netherlands on the A16 highway, right after the Belgian border has paid toilets, even for customers. It's a disgrace.
- fragmede 3y agoWhen I visited Paris and Berlin, there were pay toilets. I'd rather pay for toilets and have them be clean, than free and dirty.
- joenot443 3y agoI mentioned below, but in my case it was Netherlands and Germany. I'm seeing now it's not a very widespread practice, I just got unlucky last time I visited.
- kyriakos 3y agoIt seems to be a central Europe issue from my anecdotal experience.
- herbst 3y agoLittle Germany or Netherlands experience here. But in Austria, Italy and Switzerland I never encountered a toilet in a bar/restaurant you had to pay for.
- kyriakos 3y agoNever had problem in Denmark, Austria, Italy, Greece, Cyprus but did find places without restrooms in Germany France and UK.