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I am going to have to disagree there. Anyone can file a patent. Costs are cheap (except the lawyer, but if you have a decent patent, lawyers are also cheap) It

I am going to have to disagree there. Anyone can file a patent. Costs are cheap (except the lawyer, but if you have a decent patent, lawyers are also cheap) It seems like a whole lot of folks are worried that this will upset something, and can seemingly be unable to name/describe what that thing is except to claim that crap is incredibly cost expensive/difficult to theorize/design/develop...then some guy does it in his basement and gets sued for a bajillion dollars. I actually do support patents, but really, money is not effort, and if effort is zero, you should not be allowed to patent said effort. Using your brain is also not effort. I can think of a million different ways to patent a device that "bends you over and shoves a large stick like device in your anus", should I be granted said patent? I suspect a proper solution would be to make patent licensing completely illegal, and make patents have a 3 year expiration instead of 10 years unless you try to develop/market your patent on your own. Even in those cases, you should not be allowed to license your patent. That is just me, however.

scarface_74 3y ago
So if you make patent licenses illegal, how are the small companies that build a better widget for a larger device - cars, computers, phones ever suppose to make money? How is the chip designer going to make money if they can’t license their designs to companies that actually make products? 3 years is barely enough time to get hardware to market. It took Panic 10 years to get the Playdate to market.
- raverbashing 3y ago
  A lot of these are covered by copyright, trademarks or simply by contracts > that build a better widget for a larger device - cars, computers, phones ever suppose to make money? The same they do today? By selling actual products?
  - scarface_74 3y ago
    None of my examples are covered by copyrights or trademarks. If they were covered by copyright, that would be worse. Copyright lasts 75 years, patents last 20. Why would you sign a contract with someone for their inventions if you didn’t have to? > The same they do today? By selling actual products? Do you realize how hard it is to do hardware at scale? One of my examples was chip design. Are you saying that ARMs business model of coming up with chip designs and then licensing them shouldn’t be legal?
    - raverbashing 3y ago
      > Why would you sign a contract with someone for their inventions if you didn’t have to? Because you're buying the blueprints for the actual project instead of wasting time reverse-engineering it or developing it yourself There are plenty of ASIC/VHDL IP libraries not backed by patents, for example, and people still buy them
      - scarface_74 3y ago
        So ARM is just going to sell the blueprints once to Apple and Apple is going to turn around and use those blueprints to make literally billions of dollars? How is that going to work? Does Apple pay the same price as some no name Android manufacturer?

scarface_74 3y ago

So if you make patent licenses illegal, how are the small companies that build a better widget for a larger device - cars, computers, phones ever suppose to make money? How is the chip designer going to make money if they can’t license their designs to companies that actually make products? 3 years is barely enough time to get hardware to market. It took Panic 10 years to get the Playdate to market.

raverbashing 3y ago
A lot of these are covered by copyright, trademarks or simply by contracts > that build a better widget for a larger device - cars, computers, phones ever suppose to make money? The same they do today? By selling actual products?
- scarface_74 3y ago
  None of my examples are covered by copyrights or trademarks. If they were covered by copyright, that would be worse. Copyright lasts 75 years, patents last 20. Why would you sign a contract with someone for their inventions if you didn’t have to? > The same they do today? By selling actual products? Do you realize how hard it is to do hardware at scale? One of my examples was chip design. Are you saying that ARMs business model of coming up with chip designs and then licensing them shouldn’t be legal?
  - raverbashing 3y ago
    > Why would you sign a contract with someone for their inventions if you didn’t have to? Because you're buying the blueprints for the actual project instead of wasting time reverse-engineering it or developing it yourself There are plenty of ASIC/VHDL IP libraries not backed by patents, for example, and people still buy them
    - scarface_74 3y ago
      So ARM is just going to sell the blueprints once to Apple and Apple is going to turn around and use those blueprints to make literally billions of dollars? How is that going to work? Does Apple pay the same price as some no name Android manufacturer?