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Was talking about this with my wife fairly recently, and both of us see this as a temporary blip. Falling fertility rates will cause either the subsets of soci
by AussieWog93 3y ago
Was talking about this with my wife fairly recently, and both of us see this as a temporary blip.
Falling fertility rates will cause either the subsets of society that stopped valuing families and children to quite literally go extinct, or for our culture as a whole to collapse.
In either case, the net long term effect on the human race is negligible. Either East Asia and the West recover in a tradfem renaissance (since a far greater proportion of the population as a whole were raised by traditionalists) or it is forced on us when cultures that didn't stop reproducing turn around and colonise us back.
You can look at the demographics of Jews in Israel for an example of the "good ending".
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- satvikpendem 3y agoI'm not sure why it'd collapse when the UN predicts it'll stabilize around 5 billion, as when we were previously at 5 billion, our society didn't collapse.
- ForHackernews 3y agoThis is probably just run-of-the-mill decline of the west scaremongering. The idea is that if too many immigrants with a different skin tone arrive, then society is destroyed ("forced on us when cultures that didn't stop reproducing turn around and colonise us back.") I guess I'm an old school melting pot guy, but I firmly believe western society will maintain its historical winning streak, thanks in part to the efforts of millions of immigrants eager to contribute to their energy to its values and success. "Tolstoy Is the Tolstoy of the Zulus" and all that. Sod the xenophobes.
- solardev 3y agoIt's not just (and IMO, probably not primarily) a question of personal values and desires, but structural issues too. Raising kids is expensive as hell in many societies. Look at Japan, one of the most staunchly traditionalist societies that can't breed because everyone is too busy working and being depressed. The US too, most people who have kids are bringing them into a society of wage slavery and extremely limited social mobility, in an increasingly unstable world. Even if you liked kids, why would you subject them to such a poor start?
- usrusr 3y agoMy thoughts as well. It would take a strong and perpetual trend of people raised by breeders abandoning their parent's ways, over and over again each generation, for a plateau to remain a plateau. Humanity has always solved overpopulation through violence and I just hope that our attempt at breaking that cycle won't collapse during my lifespan.
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