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>What is this experiment to prove I'm not lucid dreaming? For decades magician and debunker of supernatural claims James Randi placed a new object on his dinin

>What is this experiment to prove I'm not lucid dreaming? For decades magician and debunker of supernatural claims James Randi placed a new object on his dining table every month, and offered a million dollar prize to anyone who could tell him what the current object was. Of course the prize was never claimed. Ask a friend down your block to put something on their dining table. Do your OBE thing and write down what you saw. If you're right you'll have proven you're not lucid dreaming and be world famous for demonstrating the reality of psychic phenomena.

swader999 3y ago
Yeah I could try something like that. Maybe even stick a playing card that I don't look at somewhere. I don't really care about proving this to anyone else. My main reason is to try to talk to my daughter I lost last year. Been really hard...
- kozd 3y ago
  How could you not care about proving this to others? You seem to harbor some hope that you can talk to a passed loved one via this or a related means? If you could prove this isn't just lucid dreaming then you could have the help of other people interested in taking the same path. Think how many people you could help and how this would revolutionize science. Don't you want to validate the method by which you're investigating the world? Shouldn't that be step one? I'm completely dumbfounded by your response.
  - Etherlord87 3y ago
    > How could you not care about proving this to others? Because he knows he couldn't. Maybe only subconsciously. The OOBE phenomenon is so old, experienced by so many, it would be ridiculous to thing the proposed tests weren't conducted before. They were, many times, and they failed.
  - swader999 3y ago
    It's just not my driving motivation. The other thing to note is that its not the exact physical world, this plane is similar though. So these proofs might not even apply.
    - blkhp19 3y ago
      I lucid dream regularly without even trying, and what you're describing sounds exactly like that. I hope you're self-aware enough to realize that your circumstances (personal / emotional investment in having this be real) make you one of the least reliable people to trust on this subject.
2snakes 3y ago
This is technically feasible with the secret key of Kriya Yoga, leaving the body through the third eye stargate.

swader999 3y ago

Yeah I could try something like that. Maybe even stick a playing card that I don't look at somewhere. I don't really care about proving this to anyone else. My main reason is to try to talk to my daughter I lost last year. Been really hard...

kozd 3y ago
How could you not care about proving this to others? You seem to harbor some hope that you can talk to a passed loved one via this or a related means? If you could prove this isn't just lucid dreaming then you could have the help of other people interested in taking the same path. Think how many people you could help and how this would revolutionize science. Don't you want to validate the method by which you're investigating the world? Shouldn't that be step one? I'm completely dumbfounded by your response.
- Etherlord87 3y ago
  > How could you not care about proving this to others? Because he knows he couldn't. Maybe only subconsciously. The OOBE phenomenon is so old, experienced by so many, it would be ridiculous to thing the proposed tests weren't conducted before. They were, many times, and they failed.
- swader999 3y ago
  It's just not my driving motivation. The other thing to note is that its not the exact physical world, this plane is similar though. So these proofs might not even apply.
  - blkhp19 3y ago
    I lucid dream regularly without even trying, and what you're describing sounds exactly like that. I hope you're self-aware enough to realize that your circumstances (personal / emotional investment in having this be real) make you one of the least reliable people to trust on this subject.

2snakes 3y ago

This is technically feasible with the secret key of Kriya Yoga, leaving the body through the third eye stargate.