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Yes you can. The good faith question to ask is: is the cost of nuclear higher than renewable +storage? I don’t know the answer, but renewable +storage is trend
by onethought 3y ago
Yes you can. The good faith question to ask is: is the cost of nuclear higher than renewable +storage?
I don’t know the answer, but renewable +storage is trending down. Nuclear is up. So at some point (which may have already happened) nuclear is just going to be a bad faith argument.
- troupo 3y ago> So at some point (which may have already happened) nuclear is just going to be a bad faith argument. When nuclear (and other forms of fuel) stop providing base loads when main types of renewables don't work (aka a night with no wind), then this will have happened.
- onethought 3y agoStorage can handle the base load. If the sun doesn’t rise one day… we have bigger problems.
- littlestymaar 3y agoStill not having heard of clouds, eh?
- onethought 3y agoyou know solar still works even through clouds right?
- littlestymaar 3y agoSure they “work” if you don't expect them to actually produce power…
- onethought 3y agoNo, they work anywhere from 80 to 20% efficiency depending on the density of the cloud. But the vast majority of cloud cover is obviously the less dense kind (dense kind falls out of the sky). So you could say 60% efficiency on a typical overcast day.
- littlestymaar 3y agoI mean, why to even bother with facts when you can pull numbers from your b*tt… In most countries, during most seasons and on most hours of the day you don't even get 80% efficiency on a sunny day! Heck, even in the most sunny deserts, the average daytime efficiency of a solar panel is barely 60%… But yeah sure in fantasy land solar panels give you a daily average 80% efficiency on a cloudy day…
- onethought 3y agoI think you are only referring to Europe when you say most countries. 80% efficiency is very common. In most countries near equator and south of the equator, and United States. And I said 60% average on a cloudy day.
- littlestymaar 3y ago> And I said 60% average on a cloudy day. If you live in fantasyland where the “average on a cloudy day” is in fact the the value that exists in the Mojave desert, then sure…
- onethought 3y agoNo, this is the average across all land mass. You get where the majority of land mass is right? (Hint: not Northern Europe)
- littlestymaar 3y agoNo it's not. But maybe you're forgetting that days aren't 12 hours of noon. Maybe the “average at noon, including sunny and cloudy days, across landmass is 60%”, but that's very much not the same thing as “the average on a cloudy day is 60%”…