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10 childless years with a little more money and free time vs 50 years with children and then grandchildren. For most, the investment of having children during

10 childless years with a little more money and free time vs 50 years with children and then grandchildren. For most, the investment of having children during the front end of life is no brainer with huge returns.

SirMaster 3y ago
But those 10 years are where I have the body to do the things I want to do. There is no guarantee that my body will be healthy and capable of things like extreme sports and adventures later.
- bequanna 3y ago
  It’s a decision all of us have to make individually. My only suggestion is try to consider what you may want at 50, 60, 70 and how you have a short window in your 20s and 30s to have children.
  - SirMaster 3y ago
    Yeah, I don't really want my 50s, 60s, 70s to be all that different from now in my 30s. For me that means being deeply immersed in my hobbies, and traveling the world and being active etc. All that I expect to change are toning down the active activities to things that an older body can still manage, like skiing, scuba diving, hiking etc. I can't see ever wanting kids or even coming close to that as I haven't even ever had a desire for a partner yet.
    - bequanna 3y ago
      > Yeah, I don't really want my 50s, 60s, 70s to be all that different from now in my 30s. I would argue that you probably have no idea what your future self will want. This is why advice from elders, parables and traditions are valuable. Ignore what they suggest at your own risk.
      - SirMaster 3y ago
        Maybe I'm weird, but so far I am 36 and have always seemed to know exactly what I want from life at every step so far and have done that and it's been excellent. And it's been quite far from any advice I've gotten from others more senior to me. There just isn't a single thing about a significant other or kids that I have ever even thought about wanting. It just seems very weird to me to do a complete 180 and pursue all these things that I have 0 interest in pursuing. I wouldn't even know how to begin. Forcing myself to get a significant other etc just seems like a bad idea and at the very least a big disservice to whoever I end up pursuing.

SirMaster 3y ago

But those 10 years are where I have the body to do the things I want to do. There is no guarantee that my body will be healthy and capable of things like extreme sports and adventures later.

bequanna 3y ago
It’s a decision all of us have to make individually. My only suggestion is try to consider what you may want at 50, 60, 70 and how you have a short window in your 20s and 30s to have children.
- SirMaster 3y ago
  Yeah, I don't really want my 50s, 60s, 70s to be all that different from now in my 30s. For me that means being deeply immersed in my hobbies, and traveling the world and being active etc. All that I expect to change are toning down the active activities to things that an older body can still manage, like skiing, scuba diving, hiking etc. I can't see ever wanting kids or even coming close to that as I haven't even ever had a desire for a partner yet.
  - bequanna 3y ago
    > Yeah, I don't really want my 50s, 60s, 70s to be all that different from now in my 30s. I would argue that you probably have no idea what your future self will want. This is why advice from elders, parables and traditions are valuable. Ignore what they suggest at your own risk.
    - SirMaster 3y ago
      Maybe I'm weird, but so far I am 36 and have always seemed to know exactly what I want from life at every step so far and have done that and it's been excellent. And it's been quite far from any advice I've gotten from others more senior to me. There just isn't a single thing about a significant other or kids that I have ever even thought about wanting. It just seems very weird to me to do a complete 180 and pursue all these things that I have 0 interest in pursuing. I wouldn't even know how to begin. Forcing myself to get a significant other etc just seems like a bad idea and at the very least a big disservice to whoever I end up pursuing.