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What age group are they comparing? I would bet later in life the parents are on average happier as the kids become adults. Who cares for the childless?

toomuchtodo 3y ago
Retirement communities and nursing homes are full of parents with children who do not visit them. How selfish does one must be to have children to have a retirement plan? Society cares for the childless, and we will have to learn to manage a declining population because of a population expansion everyone thought (how silly in a finite system) would last forever. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/4104138-one-quarter-of-adult-children-estranged-from-a-parent/ https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/4104138-one-qua... ("One quarter of adult children estranged from a parent") https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jomf.12898 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jomf.12898 ("Parent–adult child estrangement in the United States by gender, race/ethnicity, and sexuality") https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-23124345 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-23124345 ("New China law says children 'must visit parents'")
- jezzamon 3y ago
  "Society cares for the childless" - across lots of different cultures, and for a lot of human history, that is/was not the case.
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    Sure, that's how free will works, both individually and collectively. Sometimes people go without or die alone (even if they have children or society has the means and infrastructure), and that is an unfortunate reality of the human experience. Hopefully we do better but there are no guarantees. Welcome to the shit show, enjoy the ride.
bequanna 3y ago
Bingo. Also, self-reported happiness surveys are BS. I’ve been to Scandinavia. They are definitely NOT among the happiest people in the world. They simply think they should say they are happy.

toomuchtodo 3y ago

Retirement communities and nursing homes are full of parents with children who do not visit them. How selfish does one must be to have children to have a retirement plan? Society cares for the childless, and we will have to learn to manage a declining population because of a population expansion everyone thought (how silly in a finite system) would last forever. https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/4104138-one-quarter-of-adult-children-estranged-from-a-parent/ https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/4104138-one-qua... ("One quarter of adult children estranged from a parent") https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jomf.12898 https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jomf.12898 ("Parent–adult child estrangement in the United States by gender, race/ethnicity, and sexuality") https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-23124345 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-23124345 ("New China law says children 'must visit parents'")

jezzamon 3y ago
"Society cares for the childless" - across lots of different cultures, and for a lot of human history, that is/was not the case.
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  Sure, that's how free will works, both individually and collectively. Sometimes people go without or die alone (even if they have children or society has the means and infrastructure), and that is an unfortunate reality of the human experience. Hopefully we do better but there are no guarantees. Welcome to the shit show, enjoy the ride.

bequanna 3y ago

Bingo. Also, self-reported happiness surveys are BS. I’ve been to Scandinavia. They are definitely NOT among the happiest people in the world. They simply think they should say they are happy.