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Perhaps because it enables behavior that could eventually lead to a victim? Not a perfect answer and it doesn't mesh with how laws typically work, but this isn'

Perhaps because it enables behavior that could eventually lead to a victim? Not a perfect answer and it doesn't mesh with how laws typically work, but this isn't a typical situation.

LewisVerstappen 3y ago
> Perhaps because it enables behavior that could eventually lead to a victim Are there any studies that prove this? To be honest, this sounds like the whole “violent video games cause more violence”, which has clearly been debunked.
- Kretinsky 3y ago
  "Lifetime pornography use was reported by most respondents. After adjusting for age, age at first porn exposure, and current relationship status, the associations between pornography use and sexual behaviors was statistically significant" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081698/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081698/
Art9681 3y ago
If this were true we'd all be screwed with the things we're exposed to on the internet and just popular media in general. Video games, books, music, movies, the list goes on.
serf 3y ago
this is just another flavor of 'Doom enabled Columbine', but it's about such a taboo topic that the public somehow allows this kind of logic for this topic, but basically wholeheartedly ignored it with regards to video game violence. much like any digital experience, I have a hard time believing that it is somehow a practicing ground.
- Kretinsky 3y ago
  "Lifetime pornography use was reported by most respondents. After adjusting for age, age at first porn exposure, and current relationship status, the associations between pornography use and sexual behaviors was statistically significant" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081698/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081698/
e40 3y ago
I read decades ago that pornography, in general, reduced rape. 2011: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-sunny-side-of-smut/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-sunny-side-of... I'm guessing a lot more research needs to be done, but it seems possible that pornography of all types reduces the need for certain behaviors. Given society's current anti-science bent, I don't hold out any hope this research would be done or followed, if it yielded a correlation.
- SenAnder 3y ago
  If, to the best of our current knowledge, porn reduces rape, that is equivalent to saying that its absence increases rape. So we must ask ourselves: how many additional child rapes, per year, are we wiling to tolerate, to maintain a ban on fake child porn.
  - Kretinsky 3y ago
    Porn influences sexual behaviors. The mere fact that facial ejaculation, a practice invented by porn, is now mainstream proves it. "Lifetime pornography use was reported by most respondents. After adjusting for age, age at first porn exposure, and current relationship status, the associations between pornography use and sexual behaviors was statistically significant" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081698/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081698/ This thread has made me lost my faith in humanity.
    - imchillyb 3y ago
      Reading your posts has made me lose faith in your reading comprehension, so humanity is probably fine. You don’t seem to care about facts, only spreading misinformation. Repeat after me: Correlation does not equal causation; ever. Never-ever.
- jeroenhd 3y ago
  I find it hard to get a good source on this (looking online for anything paedophilia related will mostly list activist websites and research done by activists). However, I do remember encountering some research that indicated that porn normalises the deviant lust these people feel, which is obviously bad. There's a lot of research necessary on this subject, but very little of it is ethical. You can't take two large groups of paedophiles and let them go unchecked to measure how many kids they abuse over the years. What doesn't help is that the general population is very much of the opinion that all paedophiles should be killed/locked up for life; no paedophile not already under treatment will ever partake in these types of research. If you show up at a random university study and come in saying "Hi, I'm Bob the paedo", you're going to be arrested.

Perhaps because it enables behavior that could eventually lead to a victim? Not a perfect answer and it doesn't mesh with how laws typically work, but this isn't a typical situation.

LewisVerstappen 3y ago

> Perhaps because it enables behavior that could eventually lead to a victim Are there any studies that prove this? To be honest, this sounds like the whole “violent video games cause more violence”, which has clearly been debunked.

Kretinsky 3y ago
"Lifetime pornography use was reported by most respondents. After adjusting for age, age at first porn exposure, and current relationship status, the associations between pornography use and sexual behaviors was statistically significant" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081698/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081698/

Art9681 3y ago

If this were true we'd all be screwed with the things we're exposed to on the internet and just popular media in general. Video games, books, music, movies, the list goes on.

serf 3y ago

this is just another flavor of 'Doom enabled Columbine', but it's about such a taboo topic that the public somehow allows this kind of logic for this topic, but basically wholeheartedly ignored it with regards to video game violence. much like any digital experience, I have a hard time believing that it is somehow a practicing ground.

Kretinsky 3y ago
"Lifetime pornography use was reported by most respondents. After adjusting for age, age at first porn exposure, and current relationship status, the associations between pornography use and sexual behaviors was statistically significant" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081698/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081698/

e40 3y ago

I read decades ago that pornography, in general, reduced rape. 2011: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-sunny-side-of-smut/ https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-sunny-side-of... I'm guessing a lot more research needs to be done, but it seems possible that pornography of all types reduces the need for certain behaviors. Given society's current anti-science bent, I don't hold out any hope this research would be done or followed, if it yielded a correlation.

SenAnder 3y ago
If, to the best of our current knowledge, porn reduces rape, that is equivalent to saying that its absence increases rape. So we must ask ourselves: how many additional child rapes, per year, are we wiling to tolerate, to maintain a ban on fake child porn.
- Kretinsky 3y ago
  Porn influences sexual behaviors. The mere fact that facial ejaculation, a practice invented by porn, is now mainstream proves it. "Lifetime pornography use was reported by most respondents. After adjusting for age, age at first porn exposure, and current relationship status, the associations between pornography use and sexual behaviors was statistically significant" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081698/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32081698/ This thread has made me lost my faith in humanity.
  - imchillyb 3y ago
    Reading your posts has made me lose faith in your reading comprehension, so humanity is probably fine. You don’t seem to care about facts, only spreading misinformation. Repeat after me: Correlation does not equal causation; ever. Never-ever.
jeroenhd 3y ago
I find it hard to get a good source on this (looking online for anything paedophilia related will mostly list activist websites and research done by activists). However, I do remember encountering some research that indicated that porn normalises the deviant lust these people feel, which is obviously bad. There's a lot of research necessary on this subject, but very little of it is ethical. You can't take two large groups of paedophiles and let them go unchecked to measure how many kids they abuse over the years. What doesn't help is that the general population is very much of the opinion that all paedophiles should be killed/locked up for life; no paedophile not already under treatment will ever partake in these types of research. If you show up at a random university study and come in saying "Hi, I'm Bob the paedo", you're going to be arrested.