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Auto-enabling telemetry after each update seems already fitting to a gaslight definition. Not letting me to delay updates is just another level of disrespect.

Auto-enabling telemetry after each update seems already fitting to a gaslight definition. Not letting me to delay updates is just another level of disrespect. What if I am writing DVD at that time or doing something else without ability to stop and continue? If your parents don't use bitcoins on that Arch setup while sitting on Internets with no router - they don't need to do system update that often.

dist-epoch 3y ago
> Auto-enabling telemetry after each update It doesn't do such a thing. But let's not allow truth to get in the way of a good narrative.
- FirmwareBurner 3y ago
  HN threads on Windows are just a massive dogpile of FUD.
FirmwareBurner 3y ago
>Not letting me to delay updates is just another level of disrespect. False. You CAN delay updates. Though, I never do because for security and performance I like to be up to date on the stable branch. Same with 99% of users out there. >What if I am writing DVD at that time or doing something else without ability to stop and continue? What are you talking about? What work interruption? When was the last time you actually used Windows 11? Minor windows updates happen in the background while you can continue doing your work like burning DVDs, and major Windows updates will prompt you that the updates will be applied the next time you re-boot or shut-down, but that will happen at your discression, again, without interrupting your work. I feel like you might be stuck in a 2013 time loop back when Windows 10 was force-rebooting your PC for updates while users were working.
- fortran77 3y ago
  I'm happy with Windows 11. I'm running it right now on an ARM laptop. I got a call from my brother yesterday. He wanted to know how to "fix" his iPhone. He needed to install an app to buy tickets for an upcoming trip and the app said that he "must update to iOS 15.1 or higher". Somehow, even though he thought he was keeping his phone up-to-date, he missed a couple of years worth of updates. I don't think trying to help users update is user hostile.
vel0city 3y ago
You can delay updates and you can schedule when to restart. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/manage-updates-in-windows-643e9ea7-3cf6-7da6-a25c-95d4f7f099fe https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/manage-updates-i...

dist-epoch 3y ago

> Auto-enabling telemetry after each update It doesn't do such a thing. But let's not allow truth to get in the way of a good narrative.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago
HN threads on Windows are just a massive dogpile of FUD.

FirmwareBurner 3y ago

>Not letting me to delay updates is just another level of disrespect. False. You CAN delay updates. Though, I never do because for security and performance I like to be up to date on the stable branch. Same with 99% of users out there. >What if I am writing DVD at that time or doing something else without ability to stop and continue? What are you talking about? What work interruption? When was the last time you actually used Windows 11? Minor windows updates happen in the background while you can continue doing your work like burning DVDs, and major Windows updates will prompt you that the updates will be applied the next time you re-boot or shut-down, but that will happen at your discression, again, without interrupting your work. I feel like you might be stuck in a 2013 time loop back when Windows 10 was force-rebooting your PC for updates while users were working.

fortran77 3y ago
I'm happy with Windows 11. I'm running it right now on an ARM laptop. I got a call from my brother yesterday. He wanted to know how to "fix" his iPhone. He needed to install an app to buy tickets for an upcoming trip and the app said that he "must update to iOS 15.1 or higher". Somehow, even though he thought he was keeping his phone up-to-date, he missed a couple of years worth of updates. I don't think trying to help users update is user hostile.

vel0city 3y ago

You can delay updates and you can schedule when to restart. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/manage-updates-in-windows-643e9ea7-3cf6-7da6-a25c-95d4f7f099fe https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/manage-updates-i...