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Technically there's also a path where people become less racist so ethnicities matter less. I think that's an area where the average person in the U.S. struggl

by JustLurking2022 3y ago

Technically there's also a path where people become less racist so ethnicities matter less. I think that's an area where the average person in the U.S. struggles. For all our issues with race, we are generally fairly integrated, so the thought that national borders need to very closely reflect ethnicities isn't top of mind.

Gare 3y ago
Well, you should ask native Americans how they feel about that
necovek 3y ago
There is not much of racism in Serbia and Balkans (other than to Romas — but even that's never about their abilities but rather about their incompatible culture — they are "dirty and lazy" for the most part): nationalism is, like everywhere else in the world (including the USA), easy to spark in rural areas, and it's only the question of how much urban, educated population there is that will have the energy to supress the desires of the minority. Serbia proper has not seen much war other than the NATO bombing, and if you look at population statistics from 1991 and 2001 census in Balkan countries, you'll notice that it was mostly Serbian population that ended up displaced: instead of looking at the news narratives, we've got an opportunity to look at outcomes this far removed from the events. USA has systemic, widespread racism, which is harder to get a concentrated effort against since the 0.1% minority inflicting harm with it are spread around a huge area and 300M+ people. In tiny countries like Serbia (7M), Croatia (4M), Bosnia (3M), Kosovo (1.5-2M), an unscrupolous populist like Vučić or Kurti can easily get the entire minority acting together, and 0.1% ready to do damage can do a lot of damage against the other peaceful 99.9% who are slow to react. And once shit hits the fan, it's "us" vs "them", so hard for voice of reason to prevail on either side.

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Technically there's also a path where people become less racist so ethnicities matter less. I think that's an area where the average person in the U.S. struggl

by JustLurking2022 3y ago

Gare 3y ago
Well, you should ask native Americans how they feel about that
necovek 3y ago
There is not much of racism in Serbia and Balkans (other than to Romas — but even that's never about their abilities but rather about their incompatible culture — they are "dirty and lazy" for the most part): nationalism is, like everywhere else in the world (including the USA), easy to spark in rural areas, and it's only the question of how much urban, educated population there is that will have the energy to supress the desires of the minority. Serbia proper has not seen much war other than the NATO bombing, and if you look at population statistics from 1991 and 2001 census in Balkan countries, you'll notice that it was mostly Serbian population that ended up displaced: instead of looking at the news narratives, we've got an opportunity to look at outcomes this far removed from the events. USA has systemic, widespread racism, which is harder to get a concentrated effort against since the 0.1% minority inflicting harm with it are spread around a huge area and 300M+ people. In tiny countries like Serbia (7M), Croatia (4M), Bosnia (3M), Kosovo (1.5-2M), an unscrupolous populist like Vučić or Kurti can easily get the entire minority acting together, and 0.1% ready to do damage can do a lot of damage against the other peaceful 99.9% who are slow to react. And once shit hits the fan, it's "us" vs "them", so hard for voice of reason to prevail on either side.