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It think it comes in waves. There's a phase of progress and real social changes, laws get passed to correct past issues, the media warms up a lot towards minor
by makeitdouble 3y ago
It think it comes in waves.
There's a phase of progress and real social changes, laws get passed to correct past issues, the media warms up a lot towards minorities etc. Then comes the reaction, as too much visible change happens, opposing groups organize and try to re-anchor their position, will push as hard a possible to undo some of the progress and carve out areas where they'll be able to protect their values.
I don't think that back and forth can be stopped. Fundamentally change, even regarding racism, will provoke reactions. The best we can do is ratchet as much progress as we can if we want things to move in the right direction.
- Akronymus 3y agoIMO the newest wave of racism stems from the blowback to racist policies like affirmative action and similar. (for example, stipends only gor certain races and such)
- nebula8804 3y agoWe are talking about a % of a minority position since only ~38% of Americans have a bachelors degree or higher. How many people really care about this issue given that majority of people in the country don't even have/did not pursue a degree from one of these institutions that had affirmative action policies.
- bitcharmer 3y agoSo we don't care about that because it's a minority, right? Oh, the irony :)
- nebula8804 3y agoNo my point is that I think the average person is not prioritizing this issue because they cannot relate.
- bitcharmer 3y agoWhich is another way of saying that the majority doesn't prioritise the issue because it only affects minority. Potato potato
- nebula8804 3y agoThere is only so much people can care about in their day to day. This mentality you are displaying ignores reality and will end up biting you one day when something you expect to happen does not come true because you're living your life on the internet too much.
- bitcharmer 3y ago> This mentality you are displaying ignores reality So I'm living in a fantasy world and you don't because you're right and I'm wrong. Got it.
- Akronymus 3y agoAA is not just in schools. But also many workplaces have, what amounts to, quotas for having %ages of specific ethnicities. Also, even if it is only 40%ish that went for a bachelors or higher, most people know at least a few people who did. And "why should we care if it affects a minority" seems quite the dangerous path to go down on.
- nebula8804 3y ago>AA is not just in schools. But also many workplaces have, what amounts to, quotas for having %ages of specific ethnicities. The supreme court ruled on college admissions no? Correct me if I am wrong, did they also include workplace AA? >Also, even if it is only 40%ish that went for a bachelors or higher, most people know at least a few people who did. This is a big country so I find that kind of a stretch. >And "why should we care if it affects a minority" seems quite the dangerous path to go down on. My point is that its an issue that I dont think the average person is really thinking about since they can't relate.
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- makeitdouble 3y agoBut then affirmative action came in reaction to racist policies as well. That fits my point: there will be cycles of reaction to reactions. If the next move to replace affirmative action has a visible impact on whitish people admission for whatever reason, there will be a reaction. If the next nation wide policies have a deep impact on religious parts of the country, it won't just past and stay that way, etc.