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You forgot to mention the horribly overblown regional accents to appease the US viewers (I.e. legible, but quirky), and you forgot to mention needless love tria

You forgot to mention the horribly overblown regional accents to appease the US viewers (I.e. legible, but quirky), and you forgot to mention needless love triangle that only gets mention at the first and last episode of each season. Plus the unrealistic portrayal of the lower class ("I'm poor, but let me shell out £100 for a haircut. Yes my car is falling apart, but this is a charming quirkiness of my character, not a severely debilitating financial problem I might need help on")

mattigames 3y ago
I always assumed it was Hollywood, but I really had hard time understanding former coworkers English with indian accent, even people from some regions of my own country (Colombia) speak English but with the same accent they use for Spanish and makes it harder to understand, obviously is a non-problem for companies that do everything thought text messages on slack but some companies really love voice calls, I avoid those if possible.
- _a_a_a_ 3y ago
  I'm English and it's not just you. I have had particular trouble with English spoken with an Indian accent. I'm not entirely sure why but definitely part of it is the speed many Indians speak at, considerably faster than a native English speaker like me, and the very 'compressed' vowels from Urdu etc. which they naturally use when speaking English. It takes a bit of practice but you do get used to it. Oddly, I did work with one Indian guy who had excellent, un-accented English. He spoke like he'd been brought up in London, but in fact he hadn't and English was the 2nd language.
  - baud147258 3y ago
    After a visit to the company office in India, one of my colleague told me that some of the Indians working there didn't understand each other in English... Maybe there's some exageration there, but that's just not you
  - xhevahir 3y ago
    In my experience it's the unaspirated plosives ("p", "t","k") at the beginnings of words; I watched a YouTube video recently where an Indian consistently pronounced "two" like "do." Maddening. That, and the lack of stressed syllables.
    - optimalsolver 3y ago
      From what I recall, that’s how you say “two” in Sanskrit. And they reason they sound similar n the first place is that both English and Sanskrit descend from Proto Indo-European. This documentary goes into it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y7x7vLM_q50 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y7x7vLM_q50
      - qwytw 3y ago
        It sound similarly in pretty much every Indo European language though.
    - DFHippie 3y ago
      This might be a spelling accent. In Indian subcontinent languages you have to distinguish between t, th, d, and dh, so in roman script you expect the h to be there to represent aspiration. If you learn English from texts, from a teacher who learned it from texts, you become fluent without ever mastering the pronunciation. And I imagine it's a bit confusing if your ear is used to four distinctions instead of two. In a similar vein, I listened to a Google video narrated by an employee whose presentation generally was excellent, but who pronounced "snippet" as though it were "snip pet". It was charming but distracting.
ellyagg 3y ago
> Plus the unrealistic portrayal of the lower class ("I'm poor, but let me shell out £100 for a haircut. Yes my car is falling apart, How is this unrealistic? This is literally what poor people do. It's what I did when I was poor. I also bought the 20 volume Oxford English Dictionary when I was poor. Poor people spend their money on a lot of dumb shit.
- tetris11 3y ago
  It's the opposite of what I and a lot of my schoolmates did when we were poor. You'd get a haircut from your mum or your girlfriend. You'd torrent the OED. Many poor people aren't idiots, they're often just caught in a unlucky situation without the time/resources to fight their way out of it. Same way that many rich people are lucky idiots.
WentFullRetard 3y ago
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mattigames 3y ago

I always assumed it was Hollywood, but I really had hard time understanding former coworkers English with indian accent, even people from some regions of my own country (Colombia) speak English but with the same accent they use for Spanish and makes it harder to understand, obviously is a non-problem for companies that do everything thought text messages on slack but some companies really love voice calls, I avoid those if possible.

_a_a_a_ 3y ago
I'm English and it's not just you. I have had particular trouble with English spoken with an Indian accent. I'm not entirely sure why but definitely part of it is the speed many Indians speak at, considerably faster than a native English speaker like me, and the very 'compressed' vowels from Urdu etc. which they naturally use when speaking English. It takes a bit of practice but you do get used to it. Oddly, I did work with one Indian guy who had excellent, un-accented English. He spoke like he'd been brought up in London, but in fact he hadn't and English was the 2nd language.
- baud147258 3y ago
  After a visit to the company office in India, one of my colleague told me that some of the Indians working there didn't understand each other in English... Maybe there's some exageration there, but that's just not you
- xhevahir 3y ago
  In my experience it's the unaspirated plosives ("p", "t","k") at the beginnings of words; I watched a YouTube video recently where an Indian consistently pronounced "two" like "do." Maddening. That, and the lack of stressed syllables.
  - optimalsolver 3y ago
    From what I recall, that’s how you say “two” in Sanskrit. And they reason they sound similar n the first place is that both English and Sanskrit descend from Proto Indo-European. This documentary goes into it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y7x7vLM_q50 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=y7x7vLM_q50
    - qwytw 3y ago
      It sound similarly in pretty much every Indo European language though.
  - DFHippie 3y ago
    This might be a spelling accent. In Indian subcontinent languages you have to distinguish between t, th, d, and dh, so in roman script you expect the h to be there to represent aspiration. If you learn English from texts, from a teacher who learned it from texts, you become fluent without ever mastering the pronunciation. And I imagine it's a bit confusing if your ear is used to four distinctions instead of two. In a similar vein, I listened to a Google video narrated by an employee whose presentation generally was excellent, but who pronounced "snippet" as though it were "snip pet". It was charming but distracting.

ellyagg 3y ago

> Plus the unrealistic portrayal of the lower class ("I'm poor, but let me shell out £100 for a haircut. Yes my car is falling apart, How is this unrealistic? This is literally what poor people do. It's what I did when I was poor. I also bought the 20 volume Oxford English Dictionary when I was poor. Poor people spend their money on a lot of dumb shit.

tetris11 3y ago
It's the opposite of what I and a lot of my schoolmates did when we were poor. You'd get a haircut from your mum or your girlfriend. You'd torrent the OED. Many poor people aren't idiots, they're often just caught in a unlucky situation without the time/resources to fight their way out of it. Same way that many rich people are lucky idiots.

WentFullRetard 3y ago

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