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It's not about good and bad choices. It's that the he world's best answer to the iPhone is... the iPhone, but worse quality and cheaper. Which is a tautology at

It's not about good and bad choices. It's that the he world's best answer to the iPhone is... the iPhone, but worse quality and cheaper. Which is a tautology at best, not a response.

unethical_ban 3y ago
The Android experience is IMO much better than iOS. Apple wins on hardware and network effect.
- not_your_vase 3y ago
  The Android user experience is a carbon copy of the iOS experience, with slightly different colors and differently sharp edges around the controls. Want to see something that's not only name different? Try Palm OS. Try WinCE. Try Symbian. Not necessarily saying they are better (there is a reason why they are dead). But it will nicely illustrate that the difference between Android and iOS is very similar to DVD+R and DVD-R - the underlying code is different, but in practice they are barely distinguishable from each other. (Except for the non-existent OS support, gigabytes of bloatware, overeager process killer, etc)
  - afavour 3y ago
    They both borrow from each other. Notifications in particular: Android’s implementation was superior from day one and iOS ended up cribbing a bunch of stuff like swiping.
    - photonerd 3y ago
      Yet swipe interactions themselves were first implemented—generally speaking that is—in the iOS UI.
- photonerd 3y ago
  So apple wins on overall experience then? Because it’s impossible to separate the experience of a physical device from its hardware OR a device from its network of services & products. All you’re really saying here is you can make android look pretty (god knows it’s not by default). And Android still has awful scrolling on anything but its most high end hardware. That’s just… sad.
  - unethical_ban 3y ago
    Allow me to introduce the concept of a hardware device compatible with multiple operating systems. And yes, I can like a user experience and software feature independent of the hardware it is operating on.

It's not about good and bad choices. It's that the he world's best answer to the iPhone is... the iPhone, but worse quality and cheaper. Which is a tautology at best, not a response.

unethical_ban 3y ago

The Android experience is IMO much better than iOS. Apple wins on hardware and network effect.

not_your_vase 3y ago
The Android user experience is a carbon copy of the iOS experience, with slightly different colors and differently sharp edges around the controls. Want to see something that's not only name different? Try Palm OS. Try WinCE. Try Symbian. Not necessarily saying they are better (there is a reason why they are dead). But it will nicely illustrate that the difference between Android and iOS is very similar to DVD+R and DVD-R - the underlying code is different, but in practice they are barely distinguishable from each other. (Except for the non-existent OS support, gigabytes of bloatware, overeager process killer, etc)
- afavour 3y ago
  They both borrow from each other. Notifications in particular: Android’s implementation was superior from day one and iOS ended up cribbing a bunch of stuff like swiping.
  - photonerd 3y ago
    Yet swipe interactions themselves were first implemented—generally speaking that is—in the iOS UI.
photonerd 3y ago
So apple wins on overall experience then? Because it’s impossible to separate the experience of a physical device from its hardware OR a device from its network of services & products. All you’re really saying here is you can make android look pretty (god knows it’s not by default). And Android still has awful scrolling on anything but its most high end hardware. That’s just… sad.
- unethical_ban 3y ago
  Allow me to introduce the concept of a hardware device compatible with multiple operating systems. And yes, I can like a user experience and software feature independent of the hardware it is operating on.