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> Pay anonymously with Bitcoin. Or use Lightning for instant payments and lower fees. Bitcoin is not anonymous. This makes me doubt of all their privacy claims

by pricci 3y ago

d11z 3y ago
If they wanted to accept crypto, would there be anything stopping them from using Monero at least, instead? I wonder why they would ignore the major actually anonymous token.
- yieldcrv 3y ago
  because its compromised by a Bitcoin maxi they’ve been slowing progress down for 10 years straight now but don’t worry you’ve been able to pay bitcoin invoices with monero and everything else for nearly as long too, just use a mixer and set the destination asset and address to the one on the invoice
  - CommitSyn 3y ago
    As a casual Monero user, who's the Bitcoin maxi you're speaking of? Fluffypony? Seth? I remember reading about someone on the Monero core team who started working for a large Bitcoin company but don't remember who it was or what the issue was.
    - yieldcrv 3y ago
      OP’s project has a bitcoin maxi on it, which is why bitcoin/ln is accepted despite its privacy challenges Monero’s cross contribution has been good, wasnt talking about them. Not sure off the top of my head anymore.
      - CommitSyn 3y ago
        Oh thanks for the clarification. I was curious why XMR isn't available.
- wkat4242 3y ago
  Some countries like India make owning monero illegal so it's not an option for everyone. How they're going to prove it is another story of course. But it is what it is. They also ban most sat phones by the way.
  - wtmt 3y ago
    > Some countries like India make owning monero illegal so it's not an option for everyone. Owning cryptocurrency is not illegal in India. There is no ban on any cryptocurrencies in India. There is a hefty tax deduction at source on any transactions. Cryptocurrencies are not recognized as legal tender in India, which is the case in many other countries.
    - wkat4242 3y ago
      I thought privacy coins are banned there: https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/govt-to-move-bill-to-ban-all-privatecryptocurrencies-11637693131165.html https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/govt-to-move-...
      - wtmt 3y ago
        That’s old news (from 2021). There are no laws on banning them yet (though the RBI, which is the central bank, has been in favor of a complete ban).
  - CommitSyn 3y ago
    Is Obscura operating out of India? If not, what's your point?
INGSOCIALITE 3y ago
Mullvad lets you pay with monero- or cash in an envelope.
ancientworldnow 3y ago
It seems they're a Bitcoin core developer, I'm sure they're aware of the issues and asterisks.
thinkmassive 3y ago
The blockchain is transparent and immutable, but additional layers like the Lightning Network can provide a range of additional privacy. As others have mentioned, swapping between chains is also an option.
HeartStrings 3y ago
Yeah, if they don’t accept XMR it’s a huge red flag. Hard pass

> Pay anonymously with Bitcoin. Or use Lightning for instant payments and lower fees. Bitcoin is not anonymous. This makes me doubt of all their privacy claims

by pricci 3y ago

> Pay anonymously with Bitcoin. Or use Lightning for instant payments and lower fees. Bitcoin is not anonymous. This makes me doubt of all their privacy claims

d11z 3y ago

If they wanted to accept crypto, would there be anything stopping them from using Monero at least, instead? I wonder why they would ignore the major actually anonymous token.

yieldcrv 3y ago
because its compromised by a Bitcoin maxi they’ve been slowing progress down for 10 years straight now but don’t worry you’ve been able to pay bitcoin invoices with monero and everything else for nearly as long too, just use a mixer and set the destination asset and address to the one on the invoice
- CommitSyn 3y ago
  As a casual Monero user, who's the Bitcoin maxi you're speaking of? Fluffypony? Seth? I remember reading about someone on the Monero core team who started working for a large Bitcoin company but don't remember who it was or what the issue was.
  - yieldcrv 3y ago
    OP’s project has a bitcoin maxi on it, which is why bitcoin/ln is accepted despite its privacy challenges Monero’s cross contribution has been good, wasnt talking about them. Not sure off the top of my head anymore.
    - CommitSyn 3y ago
      Oh thanks for the clarification. I was curious why XMR isn't available.
wkat4242 3y ago
Some countries like India make owning monero illegal so it's not an option for everyone. How they're going to prove it is another story of course. But it is what it is. They also ban most sat phones by the way.
- wtmt 3y ago
  > Some countries like India make owning monero illegal so it's not an option for everyone. Owning cryptocurrency is not illegal in India. There is no ban on any cryptocurrencies in India. There is a hefty tax deduction at source on any transactions. Cryptocurrencies are not recognized as legal tender in India, which is the case in many other countries.
  - wkat4242 3y ago
    I thought privacy coins are banned there: https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/govt-to-move-bill-to-ban-all-privatecryptocurrencies-11637693131165.html https://www.livemint.com/market/cryptocurrency/govt-to-move-...
    - wtmt 3y ago
      That’s old news (from 2021). There are no laws on banning them yet (though the RBI, which is the central bank, has been in favor of a complete ban).
- CommitSyn 3y ago
  Is Obscura operating out of India? If not, what's your point?

INGSOCIALITE 3y ago

Mullvad lets you pay with monero- or cash in an envelope.

ancientworldnow 3y ago

It seems they're a Bitcoin core developer, I'm sure they're aware of the issues and asterisks.

thinkmassive 3y ago

The blockchain is transparent and immutable, but additional layers like the Lightning Network can provide a range of additional privacy. As others have mentioned, swapping between chains is also an option.

HeartStrings 3y ago

Yeah, if they don’t accept XMR it’s a huge red flag. Hard pass