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Please refrain from insults and crude sexist personal attacks. It violates the site rules, and weakens the effectiveness of your argument. I didn’t defend the

Please refrain from insults and crude sexist personal attacks. It violates the site rules, and weakens the effectiveness of your argument. I didn’t defend the airport security rules, I simply pointed out that this is a pretty rational reaction to the existing rules, and not at all an unpredictable outcome of that persons actions. I would love to see airport security reformed. I would love to live in a world where we can acknowledge that traditional hijacking is not really a risk anymore. However, I don’t see a possible and likely reform where you can go to a secure area and talk about your ability to bypass security with a device, and expect to keep that device. If you want a list of things that are and aren’t allowed, you end up with a list that defaults to anything not explicitly allowed is banned.

thefurdrake 3y ago
> Please refrain from insults and crude sexist personal attacks. It violates the site rules, and weakens the effectiveness of your argument. Fair enough. (Edit: What I said isn't sexist and it won't ever be, but this guy seems intent on driving that narrative) > I simply pointed out that this is a pretty rational reaction to the existing rules It's not, though. Not even remotely. I know how to commit a crime with every object on my body, including the actual parts of my body. I know that, you know that, the airport security staff knows that, a child knows that. He didn't say, "I'm going to punch people at this airport," he said, "I know kung fu," and this scared the individual, so he was detained and the scary object confiscated. Further: I can use the wifi radio in my laptop to commit a crime in the UK, according to an adjacent comment. Is it sane that possessing that knowledge should mean I have my laptop taken away? Is my laptop, which was just fine moments prior to me saying, "I can listen to wifi with a laptop", suddenly no longer alright? That's any wireless NIC with promisc mode... > If you want a list of things that are and aren’t allowed, you end up with a list that defaults to anything not explicitly allowed is banned. No. You end up with a set of predictable restrictions that people can rely upon to know what they are and are not permitted to bring into a facility-- this shouldn't be /guesswork/. There are some /serious ramifications/ to your entire life if someone decides something you have is dangerous at an airport, so there should be some pretty serious requirements for making clear what is and is not permitted.
tanseydavid 3y ago
Uh, sexist?!?!?! Where?
- thefurdrake 3y ago
  "Taking the dick" is arguably a sexist position. I disagree, but it's a tiresome argument that isn't worth having. Going on about it would distract, which is what the point of the objection was; that's why he led with it.
  - pfannkuchen 3y ago
    More like homophobic, no? I don’t think he is implying the other poster is a woman.
    - thefurdrake 3y ago
      Homophobic would be appropriate, yes, but that's not what the was claimed, and there's nothing else related to sex/gender in my response to him, so I guess that's the angle he's going for.
  - jstarfish 3y ago
    It's not every day someone says something so ambiguous yet offensive, it starts infighting about who should be offended by it. Well played...!
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thefurdrake 3y ago

> Please refrain from insults and crude sexist personal attacks. It violates the site rules, and weakens the effectiveness of your argument. Fair enough. (Edit: What I said isn't sexist and it won't ever be, but this guy seems intent on driving that narrative) > I simply pointed out that this is a pretty rational reaction to the existing rules It's not, though. Not even remotely. I know how to commit a crime with every object on my body, including the actual parts of my body. I know that, you know that, the airport security staff knows that, a child knows that. He didn't say, "I'm going to punch people at this airport," he said, "I know kung fu," and this scared the individual, so he was detained and the scary object confiscated. Further: I can use the wifi radio in my laptop to commit a crime in the UK, according to an adjacent comment. Is it sane that possessing that knowledge should mean I have my laptop taken away? Is my laptop, which was just fine moments prior to me saying, "I can listen to wifi with a laptop", suddenly no longer alright? That's any wireless NIC with promisc mode... > If you want a list of things that are and aren’t allowed, you end up with a list that defaults to anything not explicitly allowed is banned. No. You end up with a set of predictable restrictions that people can rely upon to know what they are and are not permitted to bring into a facility-- this shouldn't be /guesswork/. There are some /serious ramifications/ to your entire life if someone decides something you have is dangerous at an airport, so there should be some pretty serious requirements for making clear what is and is not permitted.

tanseydavid 3y ago

Uh, sexist?!?!?! Where?

thefurdrake 3y ago
"Taking the dick" is arguably a sexist position. I disagree, but it's a tiresome argument that isn't worth having. Going on about it would distract, which is what the point of the objection was; that's why he led with it.
- pfannkuchen 3y ago
  More like homophobic, no? I don’t think he is implying the other poster is a woman.
  - thefurdrake 3y ago
    Homophobic would be appropriate, yes, but that's not what the was claimed, and there's nothing else related to sex/gender in my response to him, so I guess that's the angle he's going for.
- jstarfish 3y ago
  It's not every day someone says something so ambiguous yet offensive, it starts infighting about who should be offended by it. Well played...!
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