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What key breach?

zamadatix 3y ago
Email signing key https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/blog/2023/07/14/analysis-of-storm-0558-techniques-for-unauthorized-email-access/ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/blog/2023/07/14/ana... I find the argument completely unconvincing though. That two things which regularly happen are aligned in the news cycle is not reasoning, let alone something so certain to state as if it could only be fact.
- mrguyorama 3y ago
  Except it's so common it's literally a marketed service of PR firms. This isn't a conspiracy, it's something you can legally buy on the open market. Any company with more than a hundred people should be assumed to at least have conversations with an "image management" consultancy, and bigger/richer companies should be assumed to have an entire team either internally or contracted full time.
  - zamadatix 3y ago
    It is a conspiracy (a conspiracy actually requires it be possible to do in the first place as conspiracy doesn't mean "crazy impossible thing that can't happen"), but that's complexly beside the point I'm making and the distraction it provides is expressly why I didn't say the issue with the reasoning was it's a conspiracy. Even if we assume with 100% certainty Microsoft was/is actively interested in engage in a conspiracy to muddy news around "Microsoft keys" they know they don't actually need to bother with all that simply because "Microsoft keys" are already a regular news subject - without hiring a PR firm or actively pushing the news. And this is all besides the points of arguing whether the key signing news is "just now" blowing up in order to even make the two events seem to align. Besides, the truth of "few reading the news actually give a shit about understanding email security keys but anything about free ways to activate Windows changing regularly makes a more popular story" is far more interesting anyways because no amount of wishing the problem was actually a few PR people at $EvilCorp controlling the media instead of people simply not caring will ever explain why the email news story never got to the same popularity in the months and updates (and following month) since it has been out there.

What key breach?

Email signing key https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/blog/2023/07/14/analysis-of-storm-0558-techniques-for-unauthorized-email-access/ https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/blog/2023/07/14/ana... I find the argument completely unconvincing though. That two things which regularly happen are aligned in the news cycle is not reasoning, let alone something so certain to state as if it could only be fact.

mrguyorama 3y ago
Except it's so common it's literally a marketed service of PR firms. This isn't a conspiracy, it's something you can legally buy on the open market. Any company with more than a hundred people should be assumed to at least have conversations with an "image management" consultancy, and bigger/richer companies should be assumed to have an entire team either internally or contracted full time.
- zamadatix 3y ago
  It is a conspiracy (a conspiracy actually requires it be possible to do in the first place as conspiracy doesn't mean "crazy impossible thing that can't happen"), but that's complexly beside the point I'm making and the distraction it provides is expressly why I didn't say the issue with the reasoning was it's a conspiracy. Even if we assume with 100% certainty Microsoft was/is actively interested in engage in a conspiracy to muddy news around "Microsoft keys" they know they don't actually need to bother with all that simply because "Microsoft keys" are already a regular news subject - without hiring a PR firm or actively pushing the news. And this is all besides the points of arguing whether the key signing news is "just now" blowing up in order to even make the two events seem to align. Besides, the truth of "few reading the news actually give a shit about understanding email security keys but anything about free ways to activate Windows changing regularly makes a more popular story" is far more interesting anyways because no amount of wishing the problem was actually a few PR people at $EvilCorp controlling the media instead of people simply not caring will ever explain why the email news story never got to the same popularity in the months and updates (and following month) since it has been out there.