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Disagree. Watching ads pays for nothing. People buying stuff with some ad budget included in the price is what pays for that content. The entire thing is essent

Disagree. Watching ads pays for nothing. People buying stuff with some ad budget included in the price is what pays for that content. The entire thing is essentially like a tax collected with everything you buy, then part of the money gets spend to produce ads and run the entire ad industry, the rest is distributed among everyone displaying the ads. Even if I block every ad, I am still paying for them, I am still paying for the content. And if you are getting a subscription to get rid of the ads, then you are actually paying twice - not only directly with your subscription but you are also still paying into all the ad budgets when you buy stuff.

dylan604 3y ago
You watching the ad is not what gets money to transfer. The person wanting to show an ad pays for someone to show the ad. In theory, the larger number of eyes available to view the ad can demand a higher price for the privilege of showing the ad. The per-click concept of paying for ads is very disingenuous. You provide a monthly budget, and the ad provider will show you charts of how you got exactly that many clicks, regardless of budget.
- danbruc 3y ago
  I already gave them my money, just distribute it among the websites I visit and do not bother me with your ads.
  - cscurmudgeon 3y ago
    > just distribute it among the websites I visit and do not bother me with your ads Are you a champion of privacy if you advocate for this? How will you implement this without a centralized tracking? Hilarious.
    - danbruc 3y ago
      Why would you have to track all the things? The entire idea of the ad based system is that you still get access to the content even if you are not paying for it. There is nothing to be tracked all the way through the system. If I see an ad for product X, then because someone wants me to buy X, but the money for that ad comes from someone else who already bought X. You might never know who that other person was because they bought their X in some store with cash and that other person might also not know about the website on which I saw the ad and have no interest in financing that websites. That everything is pooled together and not individually tracked is a feature. If you could track everything, why would you pay for content consumed by people contributing little or nothing to the ad budgets? All the tracking for targeted ads is an attempt to move into that direction, only spend money for ads on people who are likely to pay it back in the future. If you have no money, then there will be no ads for you and it turn no money for the websites you visit.

dylan604 3y ago

You watching the ad is not what gets money to transfer. The person wanting to show an ad pays for someone to show the ad. In theory, the larger number of eyes available to view the ad can demand a higher price for the privilege of showing the ad. The per-click concept of paying for ads is very disingenuous. You provide a monthly budget, and the ad provider will show you charts of how you got exactly that many clicks, regardless of budget.

danbruc 3y ago
I already gave them my money, just distribute it among the websites I visit and do not bother me with your ads.
- cscurmudgeon 3y ago
  > just distribute it among the websites I visit and do not bother me with your ads Are you a champion of privacy if you advocate for this? How will you implement this without a centralized tracking? Hilarious.
  - danbruc 3y ago
    Why would you have to track all the things? The entire idea of the ad based system is that you still get access to the content even if you are not paying for it. There is nothing to be tracked all the way through the system. If I see an ad for product X, then because someone wants me to buy X, but the money for that ad comes from someone else who already bought X. You might never know who that other person was because they bought their X in some store with cash and that other person might also not know about the website on which I saw the ad and have no interest in financing that websites. That everything is pooled together and not individually tracked is a feature. If you could track everything, why would you pay for content consumed by people contributing little or nothing to the ad budgets? All the tracking for targeted ads is an attempt to move into that direction, only spend money for ads on people who are likely to pay it back in the future. If you have no money, then there will be no ads for you and it turn no money for the websites you visit.