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Svbtle for Wordpress

93 points by ricardorauch 15y ago

This is not the first post about Svbtle. It only tries to show how you can easily build the same product in WordPress. Go to GitHub to get this project. THE INTERFACE When I read about Svbtle just seemed to me to write great enter without stop from view. Having a list where these ideas “cooking” and another where the already published is just great. Only someone with experience doing great publications could accomplish this interface. TECHNOLOGY BEHIND Since I did not want to ignore the features already offered by WordPress and reinvent the wheel by creating a login system, writing (drafts and published), optimizations of queries, features that are not visible to the user’s eyes as the cache (WP Super Cache) , pushState (WP History.js) and minimize js and css files (BWP Minify).

pace 15y ago
Incredible how Svbtle got popular and a creator who doesn't seem to be too happy about its evolution. Good read on that http://therain.posterous.com/dustin-curtis-single-mistake-with-svbtle http://therain.posterous.com/dustin-curtis-single-mistake-wi...
- delinka 15y ago
  While I agree with the premise of your posted link, the grammar starts falling apart later in the post. Seems to have some logical leaps there at the end as well. Just seems like the author is not a native English speaker I suppose.
- pdelgallego 15y ago
  The Streisand effect in all its glory
- vikvik 15y ago
  I am very confused. The author of the article writes that svbtle could have been the next tumblr. It's like saying my clean design html could have been the future facebook. I think svbtle has a clean design and a good interface, nothign more. If my instincts here are wrong, then I have to question my understanding and all the IT experience I have. I might be missing a big part of this svbtle and obtvse controversy.
- vikvik 15y ago
  I am very confused. The author of the article writes that svbtle could have been the next tumblr. It's like saying my clean design html could have been the future facebook. I think svbtle has a clean design and a good interface, nothign more. If my instincts here are wrong, then I have to question my understanding and all the IT experience I have. I might be missing a big part of this svbtle and obtvse controversy.
j_c 15y ago
Curtis' abilities surrounding marketing, PR and his brand has and will continue to drive this product. Not the technology. Copycats can build the technology, but that's it. All the aspects of the product that have resulted it reaching the top of HackerNews are unfortunately a lot harder to reproduce.
- MatthewPhillips 15y ago
  > All the aspects of the product that have resulted it reaching the top of HackerNews are unfortunately a lot harder to reproduce. Events of the past week suggest the technology is the only part that anyone's really interested in.
- ssharp 15y ago
  > Curtis' abilities surrounding marketing, PR and his brand has and will continue to drive this product. Not the technology. I wasn't sure who Curtis was, so I looked him up. From his own sites, it wasn't apparent at all. I guess he is a superhero or villain, depending on which site of his you look at. So why is his brand so strong?
  - nullflux 15y ago
    Because he does two things really well that build huge brands around specific people: 1. Acts like he knows everything and acts like a polarizing, arrogant ass (I've never met him, so who knows if he actually is an arrogant ass. The majority of people I have met that act like that seem not to be IRL. It's often a persona.) 2. Consistently writes blog posts that cause a lot of controversy (e.g. get people fired, give more famous people you know a spotlight to write content for you, etc.) I'm not bashing Curtis with the above, even though my tone seems pejorative. It's just true, and it's the same way most political talking heads and radio personalities work. Curtis is basically something like the Howard Stern of the YC set.
- huggyface 15y ago
  All the aspects of the product that have resulted it reaching the top of HackerNews What are those aspects? Honestly, I'm not seeing it. I see this as a profound example of the cult of personality.
jh3 15y ago
So much publicity for Curtis over the last couple weeks.
- samstave 15y ago
  Argh! I accidentally downvoted you when I meant to upvote you. Damn tiny arrows on the phone and no ability to reverse votes. My digital apologies.
  - antidaily 15y ago
    Yeah, maybe it should be a circle you hover your mouse over for a second.
    - jff 15y ago
      How do you hover the mouse pointer on a phone? :)
      - deleted 15y ago
        [deleted]
    - samstave 15y ago
      I have always thought this about the iPhone (and smartphones in general) When you put your finger to the screen, it should "bubble zoom" clickable links. and you could slide around to get the exact link you intend to. Viewing pages with tiny clickables meant for the precision of the mouse is infuriating.
      - craigmccaskill 15y ago
        Chrome (currently available as a beta on ICS android devices) does this.
        hdevalence2 15y ago
        Unfortunately, the implementation is, in my experience, not very good, because it's not consistent. Sometimes it shows up, and other times it doesn't, so you can't rely on it, and you have to make sure that you click perfectly every time in case it doesn't pop up. Which effectively negates the usefulness of the feature.
puppybeard 15y ago
I like the look of it, and I like the idea behind it. It's not for me, but it's still nice. I don't see how it's supposed to be a Panacea though. Are there people out there who have great difficulty blogging?
- dpritchett 15y ago
  It's called writer's block and it's pretty much universal. The point is to streamline the content creation process so that there are no distractions between you and the work. Hopefully produce more and better work when you can really focus on the craft. Once a blog post gets to the "nearly finished" state then you can deal with the 5000 options WordPress offers around every post, such as tags and crosslinking old posts and formatting and url slugs and and and...
  - deleted 15y ago
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  - sycren 15y ago
    I agree and sometimes its nice to have an uncluttered interface to work with. I find it easier to work with a full screen minimalistic editor [1,2] when writing than say word.. 1 http://www.codealchemists.com/jdarkroom/ http://www.codealchemists.com/jdarkroom/ 2 http://www.ommwriter.com/ http://www.ommwriter.com/
rkudeshi 15y ago
Is this a WordPress theme or a modification of the backend admin view?
- atourgates 15y ago
  It's both.
- chrisguitarguy 15y ago
  It's a theme and an alternate admin area. From the code on github[1], it looks like you drop the theme[2] in as normal (in `wp-content/themes`). Then you put the `wp-svbtle` directory in the same directory as your wordpress install. Doesn't really replace the built in WordPress admin area, just adds another one. 1. https://github.com/gravityonmars/wp-svbtle https://github.com/gravityonmars/wp-svbtle 2. https://github.com/gravityonmars/wp-svbtle/tree/master/wp-content/themes/svltle https://github.com/gravityonmars/wp-svbtle/tree/master/wp-co...
nullflux 15y ago
Doesn't this defeat the purpose of using such a system? It's like installing all of Windows 7 Ultimate just to run Notepad.
philip1209 15y ago
Did anybody try this in a multiuser Wordpress install?
alanh 15y ago
This is great — solves the big problem that would keep me, personally, from blogging on Svbtle, and a lesson I learned from my startup (see link): Basically, new blog platforms kinda suck due to a lack of features/interop/import/export/customizability. See: http://alanhogan.com/the-problem-with-new-blog-platforms http://alanhogan.com/the-problem-with-new-blog-platforms for the story.
nhebb 15y ago
Using the same name makes it sound like it's a product of Curtis'. At least Obtvse had the sense to use a different name.

93 points by ricardorauch 15y ago

pace 15y ago

Incredible how Svbtle got popular and a creator who doesn't seem to be too happy about its evolution. Good read on that http://therain.posterous.com/dustin-curtis-single-mistake-with-svbtle http://therain.posterous.com/dustin-curtis-single-mistake-wi...

delinka 15y ago
While I agree with the premise of your posted link, the grammar starts falling apart later in the post. Seems to have some logical leaps there at the end as well. Just seems like the author is not a native English speaker I suppose.
pdelgallego 15y ago
The Streisand effect in all its glory
vikvik 15y ago
I am very confused. The author of the article writes that svbtle could have been the next tumblr. It's like saying my clean design html could have been the future facebook. I think svbtle has a clean design and a good interface, nothign more. If my instincts here are wrong, then I have to question my understanding and all the IT experience I have. I might be missing a big part of this svbtle and obtvse controversy.
vikvik 15y ago
I am very confused. The author of the article writes that svbtle could have been the next tumblr. It's like saying my clean design html could have been the future facebook. I think svbtle has a clean design and a good interface, nothign more. If my instincts here are wrong, then I have to question my understanding and all the IT experience I have. I might be missing a big part of this svbtle and obtvse controversy.

j_c 15y ago

Curtis' abilities surrounding marketing, PR and his brand has and will continue to drive this product. Not the technology. Copycats can build the technology, but that's it. All the aspects of the product that have resulted it reaching the top of HackerNews are unfortunately a lot harder to reproduce.

MatthewPhillips 15y ago
> All the aspects of the product that have resulted it reaching the top of HackerNews are unfortunately a lot harder to reproduce. Events of the past week suggest the technology is the only part that anyone's really interested in.
ssharp 15y ago
> Curtis' abilities surrounding marketing, PR and his brand has and will continue to drive this product. Not the technology. I wasn't sure who Curtis was, so I looked him up. From his own sites, it wasn't apparent at all. I guess he is a superhero or villain, depending on which site of his you look at. So why is his brand so strong?
- nullflux 15y ago
  Because he does two things really well that build huge brands around specific people: 1. Acts like he knows everything and acts like a polarizing, arrogant ass (I've never met him, so who knows if he actually is an arrogant ass. The majority of people I have met that act like that seem not to be IRL. It's often a persona.) 2. Consistently writes blog posts that cause a lot of controversy (e.g. get people fired, give more famous people you know a spotlight to write content for you, etc.) I'm not bashing Curtis with the above, even though my tone seems pejorative. It's just true, and it's the same way most political talking heads and radio personalities work. Curtis is basically something like the Howard Stern of the YC set.
huggyface 15y ago
All the aspects of the product that have resulted it reaching the top of HackerNews What are those aspects? Honestly, I'm not seeing it. I see this as a profound example of the cult of personality.

jh3 15y ago

So much publicity for Curtis over the last couple weeks.

samstave 15y ago
Argh! I accidentally downvoted you when I meant to upvote you. Damn tiny arrows on the phone and no ability to reverse votes. My digital apologies.
- antidaily 15y ago
  Yeah, maybe it should be a circle you hover your mouse over for a second.
  - jff 15y ago
    How do you hover the mouse pointer on a phone? :)
    - deleted 15y ago
      [deleted]
  - samstave 15y ago
    I have always thought this about the iPhone (and smartphones in general) When you put your finger to the screen, it should "bubble zoom" clickable links. and you could slide around to get the exact link you intend to. Viewing pages with tiny clickables meant for the precision of the mouse is infuriating.
    - craigmccaskill 15y ago
      Chrome (currently available as a beta on ICS android devices) does this.
      - hdevalence2 15y ago
        Unfortunately, the implementation is, in my experience, not very good, because it's not consistent. Sometimes it shows up, and other times it doesn't, so you can't rely on it, and you have to make sure that you click perfectly every time in case it doesn't pop up. Which effectively negates the usefulness of the feature.

puppybeard 15y ago

I like the look of it, and I like the idea behind it. It's not for me, but it's still nice. I don't see how it's supposed to be a Panacea though. Are there people out there who have great difficulty blogging?

dpritchett 15y ago
It's called writer's block and it's pretty much universal. The point is to streamline the content creation process so that there are no distractions between you and the work. Hopefully produce more and better work when you can really focus on the craft. Once a blog post gets to the "nearly finished" state then you can deal with the 5000 options WordPress offers around every post, such as tags and crosslinking old posts and formatting and url slugs and and and...
- deleted 15y ago
  [deleted]
- sycren 15y ago
  I agree and sometimes its nice to have an uncluttered interface to work with. I find it easier to work with a full screen minimalistic editor [1,2] when writing than say word.. 1 http://www.codealchemists.com/jdarkroom/ http://www.codealchemists.com/jdarkroom/ 2 http://www.ommwriter.com/ http://www.ommwriter.com/

rkudeshi 15y ago

Is this a WordPress theme or a modification of the backend admin view?

atourgates 15y ago
It's both.
chrisguitarguy 15y ago
It's a theme and an alternate admin area. From the code on github[1], it looks like you drop the theme[2] in as normal (in `wp-content/themes`). Then you put the `wp-svbtle` directory in the same directory as your wordpress install. Doesn't really replace the built in WordPress admin area, just adds another one. 1. https://github.com/gravityonmars/wp-svbtle https://github.com/gravityonmars/wp-svbtle 2. https://github.com/gravityonmars/wp-svbtle/tree/master/wp-content/themes/svltle https://github.com/gravityonmars/wp-svbtle/tree/master/wp-co...

nullflux 15y ago

Doesn't this defeat the purpose of using such a system? It's like installing all of Windows 7 Ultimate just to run Notepad.

philip1209 15y ago

Did anybody try this in a multiuser Wordpress install?

alanh 15y ago

This is great — solves the big problem that would keep me, personally, from blogging on Svbtle, and a lesson I learned from my startup (see link): Basically, new blog platforms kinda suck due to a lack of features/interop/import/export/customizability. See: http://alanhogan.com/the-problem-with-new-blog-platforms http://alanhogan.com/the-problem-with-new-blog-platforms for the story.

nhebb 15y ago

Using the same name makes it sound like it's a product of Curtis'. At least Obtvse had the sense to use a different name.