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Examples are on the adviser pages: http://www.catb.org/esr/loadsharers/ http://www.catb.org/esr/loadsharers/, http://flent-fremont.bufferbloat.net/~d/lbip/ http

Examples are on the adviser pages: http://www.catb.org/esr/loadsharers/ http://www.catb.org/esr/loadsharers/, http://flent-fremont.bufferbloat.net/~d/lbip/ http://flent-fremont.bufferbloat.net/~d/lbip/. It seems like there will be more advisers and more candidates soon. My interpretation is that this is not about funding organizations, it's about funding independent open-source developers who maintain critical software. A couple interesting (to me) candidates: > Simon Kelley. (Simon promises a Patreon link soon) Maintains Dnsmasq, the most widely-used DNS implementation in the world, essentially solo. > Paul Eggert. Maintains the IANA timezone database. Ubiquitous in key open-source projects for decades. I don't know anything about Eric S. Raymond but it seems like everyone in the thread so far has pretty negative opinions of him, and I agree it's not a great look that he listed himself as a candidate here.

cpach 3y ago
“It seems like there will be more advisers and more candidates soon” You sure? http://www.catb.org/esr/loadsharers/ http://www.catb.org/esr/loadsharers/ hasn’t been updated in nearly four years.
- burkaman 3y ago
  Oh no I didn't see the updated date, I just figured this was posted here because it was new. I guess it is already dead.
  - dtaht 3y ago
    His idea was published in the last linux journal, and generated in part, in sympathy for my state of health at the time. Since then there has been a lot of decent research on the "load" and emerging government support for critical projects, as log4j woke up quite a few folk as to the problems that we are creating for ourselves with bad maintenence of open source code. The FCC has a NPRM pending on a cybersecurity label, for example, based on NISTś recommendations from this presidential directive. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/07/18/biden-harris-administration-announces-cybersecurity-labeling-program-for-smart-devices-to-protect-american-consumers/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases... It is ok that the loadsharers idea, as conceived here, has died, as it lives on in other places, and the things that esr and I cared about then, are getting taken care of.
jcranmer 3y ago
Of the five people listed, Paul Eggert is the only one I would consider candidate for "LBIP", although I also note that he's the only one listed with "Need: Unknown" (which to me suggests the answer is actually "no"). Admittedly, I am simply not knowledgeable about the projects the other people work on. ESR listing himself is... egotistical (to say the least), especially since there's only one of his projects that I've ever tried using (cvs-fast-export). A look at his software page (http://www.catb.org/esr/software.html http://www.catb.org/esr/software.html) indicates nothing that's in wide use (contrary to his assertion, giflib isn't actually the GIF decoder used by any large web browser). The other person he actually links to mentions inhabiting ESR's basement periodically, which doesn't give me vibes of impartiality. It's also interesting to note that the list doesn't appear to have changed for over three years.
- cratermoon 3y ago
  The one that was in wide use to my knowledge was fetchmail, and that was back before Tim Berners-Lee invented HTTP.
- Tao3300 3y ago
  He's been silent on the site and his blog for that long. Activity on gitlab seems to indicate that he's still alive though https://gitlab.com/esr https://gitlab.com/esr

cpach 3y ago

“It seems like there will be more advisers and more candidates soon” You sure? http://www.catb.org/esr/loadsharers/ http://www.catb.org/esr/loadsharers/ hasn’t been updated in nearly four years.

burkaman 3y ago
Oh no I didn't see the updated date, I just figured this was posted here because it was new. I guess it is already dead.
- dtaht 3y ago
  His idea was published in the last linux journal, and generated in part, in sympathy for my state of health at the time. Since then there has been a lot of decent research on the "load" and emerging government support for critical projects, as log4j woke up quite a few folk as to the problems that we are creating for ourselves with bad maintenence of open source code. The FCC has a NPRM pending on a cybersecurity label, for example, based on NISTś recommendations from this presidential directive. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/07/18/biden-harris-administration-announces-cybersecurity-labeling-program-for-smart-devices-to-protect-american-consumers/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases... It is ok that the loadsharers idea, as conceived here, has died, as it lives on in other places, and the things that esr and I cared about then, are getting taken care of.

jcranmer 3y ago

Of the five people listed, Paul Eggert is the only one I would consider candidate for "LBIP", although I also note that he's the only one listed with "Need: Unknown" (which to me suggests the answer is actually "no"). Admittedly, I am simply not knowledgeable about the projects the other people work on. ESR listing himself is... egotistical (to say the least), especially since there's only one of his projects that I've ever tried using (cvs-fast-export). A look at his software page (http://www.catb.org/esr/software.html http://www.catb.org/esr/software.html) indicates nothing that's in wide use (contrary to his assertion, giflib isn't actually the GIF decoder used by any large web browser). The other person he actually links to mentions inhabiting ESR's basement periodically, which doesn't give me vibes of impartiality. It's also interesting to note that the list doesn't appear to have changed for over three years.

cratermoon 3y ago
The one that was in wide use to my knowledge was fetchmail, and that was back before Tim Berners-Lee invented HTTP.
Tao3300 3y ago
He's been silent on the site and his blog for that long. Activity on gitlab seems to indicate that he's still alive though https://gitlab.com/esr https://gitlab.com/esr