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Microsoft Windows still exists, and can open executable compiled for it 25+ years ago. Microsoft Office still exists, and can still open Word / Excel / etc fil

Microsoft Windows still exists, and can open executable compiled for it 25+ years ago. Microsoft Office still exists, and can still open Word / Excel / etc files from 25+ years ago. Adobe Photoshop still exists, and can open PSD files created 25+ years ago. Microsoft Xbox One X still exists, and is backwards compatible with titles from the OG Xbox release, as far back as 22 years ago - https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/backward-compatibility?cat=xboxOG https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/backward-compatibility?cat=... Microsoft Zune (launched 2006) is still supporting and fixing compatibility issues, all the way up through Windows 11 now 17 years post-launch - https://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-just-fixed-a-zune-compatibility-issue-in-the-year-2023/ https://www.pcgamer.com/microsoft-just-fixed-a-zune-compatib... Warframe (Canadian MMO-lite third-person action video game) still supports every purchased piece of digital content ever sold, on all platforms, from the very first purchase, over the past 10 years. (I believe the same is true for Final Fantasy 14 which launched in the same year, but I'm less familiar with that one) Vanilla accounts from World of Warcraft (now 19ish years old) still work and function today. --- I don't think anyone expects things to last forever. I think they're just expecting things to last longer than "a few years", and there's no technical reason why we couldn't ensure that.

endisneigh 3y ago
None of these are managed solutions tied to hardware, so the comparisons are irrelevant. What hardware that [inherently] requires a managed service still exists after 10 years? Jamboard inherently required the cloud for "jams". Google will allow for migration to other services that do the same thing and will compensate for the hardware. Zune is dead as well as the store and your other comparisons are disingenuous at best. Furthermore, you will still be able to use the Jamboard as a whiteboard and connect it to your computer. It will not stop working. These comparisons are just terrible.
- foobiekr 3y ago
  Managed solution _makes it easier_ not harder.
  - endisneigh 3y ago
    No, not really.
- dvngnt_ 3y ago
  warframe, wow. and xbox probably meets your definition of a managed solution. Especially a mmo
  - endisneigh 3y ago
    wow is hardware? xbox 1 doesnt work with live anymore
    - hot_gril 3y ago
      And chances are that any given Xbox 1 doesn't work, period. Probably went red-ring years ago.
- hot_gril 3y ago
  I checked the Wii Shop just now... nope, it's dead.
hot_gril 3y ago
Meanwhile Microsoft killed my Minecraft account that had been peacefully existing since 2012. Botched migration to MS accounts locked out everyone who no longer had access to their old email addresses.
- imchillyb 3y ago
  All of what you just stated, every single issue, was addressed with emails, on-screen notifications, and MS Account notifications. Every single issue. The migration between Mojang and Microsoft took several years to complete. --- > Since 2021, millions of Java Edition players have switched over from their old accounts to Microsoft accounts. > https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/sections/12617909134221 https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/sections/12617909134221 > I don't have access to the email on my Mojang account > If you do not have access to the email that is used to log in to your Mojang account, you will not be able to complete the migration. You will need to change the email on your account first. For instructions on how to do this, see: https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360035056531-Changing-Your-Email-Address-Mojang-Accounts- https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360035056531-Ch... > If you cannot change your Mojang account email, have your transaction ID or gift code available and contact Minecraft support. --- 2 years is plenty of time to migrate. If someone waited until the very last moment to migrate, then that is not a Microsoft issue, but a diligence issue with the user. Be more diligent with life, and these types of issues just don't occur with any frequency. Here's a line from my favorite over-the-window plaque: "A lack of preparation on your part does not equal an emergency for me."
  - hot_gril 3y ago
    I can't migrate without access to my old email address unless I wrote down my gift code 11 years ago. I knew about this for 2 years, yet there was nothing I could do. I contacted MS support a few times with no response. Email access was never required until now, just the password, so of course a ton of other people had the same issue. Also, this isn't my job to begin with. Suppose I simply didn't play the game for 2 years; I'd deserve to lose my account? If MS wants to migrate people to a new account system, it's definitely their job to do that automatically (or at least not lock existing users out), like with every other online service. > Be more diligent with life Please don't talk down to me. Microsoft created the "emergency" here, not that I take a Minecraft account anywhere near this seriously.

endisneigh 3y ago

None of these are managed solutions tied to hardware, so the comparisons are irrelevant. What hardware that [inherently] requires a managed service still exists after 10 years? Jamboard inherently required the cloud for "jams". Google will allow for migration to other services that do the same thing and will compensate for the hardware. Zune is dead as well as the store and your other comparisons are disingenuous at best. Furthermore, you will still be able to use the Jamboard as a whiteboard and connect it to your computer. It will not stop working. These comparisons are just terrible.

foobiekr 3y ago
Managed solution _makes it easier_ not harder.
- endisneigh 3y ago
  No, not really.
dvngnt_ 3y ago
warframe, wow. and xbox probably meets your definition of a managed solution. Especially a mmo
- endisneigh 3y ago
  wow is hardware? xbox 1 doesnt work with live anymore
  - hot_gril 3y ago
    And chances are that any given Xbox 1 doesn't work, period. Probably went red-ring years ago.
hot_gril 3y ago
I checked the Wii Shop just now... nope, it's dead.

hot_gril 3y ago

Meanwhile Microsoft killed my Minecraft account that had been peacefully existing since 2012. Botched migration to MS accounts locked out everyone who no longer had access to their old email addresses.

imchillyb 3y ago
All of what you just stated, every single issue, was addressed with emails, on-screen notifications, and MS Account notifications. Every single issue. The migration between Mojang and Microsoft took several years to complete. --- > Since 2021, millions of Java Edition players have switched over from their old accounts to Microsoft accounts. > https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/sections/12617909134221 https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/sections/12617909134221 > I don't have access to the email on my Mojang account > If you do not have access to the email that is used to log in to your Mojang account, you will not be able to complete the migration. You will need to change the email on your account first. For instructions on how to do this, see: https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360035056531-Changing-Your-Email-Address-Mojang-Accounts- https://help.minecraft.net/hc/en-us/articles/360035056531-Ch... > If you cannot change your Mojang account email, have your transaction ID or gift code available and contact Minecraft support. --- 2 years is plenty of time to migrate. If someone waited until the very last moment to migrate, then that is not a Microsoft issue, but a diligence issue with the user. Be more diligent with life, and these types of issues just don't occur with any frequency. Here's a line from my favorite over-the-window plaque: "A lack of preparation on your part does not equal an emergency for me."
- hot_gril 3y ago
  I can't migrate without access to my old email address unless I wrote down my gift code 11 years ago. I knew about this for 2 years, yet there was nothing I could do. I contacted MS support a few times with no response. Email access was never required until now, just the password, so of course a ton of other people had the same issue. Also, this isn't my job to begin with. Suppose I simply didn't play the game for 2 years; I'd deserve to lose my account? If MS wants to migrate people to a new account system, it's definitely their job to do that automatically (or at least not lock existing users out), like with every other online service. > Be more diligent with life Please don't talk down to me. Microsoft created the "emergency" here, not that I take a Minecraft account anywhere near this seriously.