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There's one way to stop it: online culture must shift toward blaming early adopters for not waiting, instead of blaming companies for bad QA. TotalBiscuit push

There's one way to stop it: online culture must shift toward blaming early adopters for not waiting, instead of blaming companies for bad QA. TotalBiscuit pushed that for game preorders, and it worked, preorders declined. Change always starts from below, and idle BigCorp criticism has no effect if people still give their money blindly.

uuddlrlrbaba 3y ago
They are the same thing? If a majority refuses to buy new products due to bad QA it does effectively blame the company for bad QA
- concinds 3y ago
  The point is many are blaming [BigCorp] while still consistently being early-adopters of their products.
saurik 3y ago
I mean... I absolutely do think early adopters of stuff are ridiculous and that the only reason I hop into bleeding edge tech is if I need or want to target it as a developer; and yet, I also think that a lot of these issues are ridiculous and in many cases (not sure about this current one, to be clear; but I haven't heard the cause yet) predictable (to the people who came up with / added it, not necessarily those of us in the peanut gallery that don't even know what really changed) to the point where it sometimes feels like the companies aren't doing sufficient QA at the conceptual level before pushing their product, as if what matters more is hitting some release deadline than making users happy. I guess: I blame the premise that Apple is a publicly traded company and I blame the people who work for it for going along with the incentives it has to simultaneously market the hell out of their new devices right out of the gate while simultaneously not really thinking through the ramifications of their designs in a way commiserate to the idea that they themselves are the reason so many people insist on ravenously buying into this stuff immediately. Like, it just doesn't, to me, feel like a cultural problem: it feels like a problem with the kind of arrogant marketing and simultaneously arrogant technical stance that the overall arrogant company that is Apple likes to take with their entire public image.
- gls2ro 3y ago
  > I absolutely do think early adopters of stuff are ridiculous If there are no early adopters there are no good products. Imagine a company launching a new product, no customer buying it and then they iterate 4 generations to make it better without any real usage feedback and still with no customers.
Yeul 3y ago
Early adopters get to show off their conspicuous consumption to everyone. That's the product they bought.
foogazi 3y ago
> online culture must shift toward blaming early adopters for not waiting What does a user do with blame? If the phone doesn’t work users will just return it

uuddlrlrbaba 3y ago

They are the same thing? If a majority refuses to buy new products due to bad QA it does effectively blame the company for bad QA

concinds 3y ago
The point is many are blaming [BigCorp] while still consistently being early-adopters of their products.

saurik 3y ago

I mean... I absolutely do think early adopters of stuff are ridiculous and that the only reason I hop into bleeding edge tech is if I need or want to target it as a developer; and yet, I also think that a lot of these issues are ridiculous and in many cases (not sure about this current one, to be clear; but I haven't heard the cause yet) predictable (to the people who came up with / added it, not necessarily those of us in the peanut gallery that don't even know what really changed) to the point where it sometimes feels like the companies aren't doing sufficient QA at the conceptual level before pushing their product, as if what matters more is hitting some release deadline than making users happy. I guess: I blame the premise that Apple is a publicly traded company and I blame the people who work for it for going along with the incentives it has to simultaneously market the hell out of their new devices right out of the gate while simultaneously not really thinking through the ramifications of their designs in a way commiserate to the idea that they themselves are the reason so many people insist on ravenously buying into this stuff immediately. Like, it just doesn't, to me, feel like a cultural problem: it feels like a problem with the kind of arrogant marketing and simultaneously arrogant technical stance that the overall arrogant company that is Apple likes to take with their entire public image.

gls2ro 3y ago
> I absolutely do think early adopters of stuff are ridiculous If there are no early adopters there are no good products. Imagine a company launching a new product, no customer buying it and then they iterate 4 generations to make it better without any real usage feedback and still with no customers.

Yeul 3y ago

Early adopters get to show off their conspicuous consumption to everyone. That's the product they bought.

foogazi 3y ago

> online culture must shift toward blaming early adopters for not waiting What does a user do with blame? If the phone doesn’t work users will just return it