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I can predict the whining already, but 8 years is really not a short lifespan for a product. That's an honest effort at getting a market, which failed. That's

I can predict the whining already, but 8 years is really not a short lifespan for a product. That's an honest effort at getting a market, which failed. That's life.

Retric 3y ago
Nothing wrong with pulling the plug, but there’s a common expectation that unless you go out of business you’ll keep supporting a product for years after you stop selling it. Imagine if Honda decided to stop selling the Accord and on the same day their dealerships stopped carrying parts for it. Would you be willing to buy any model from them knowing it can be abandoned at any moment?
- doublerabbit 3y ago
  There is, my device is perfectly functional. You shouldn't need to replace $device because they want to make another quick cash grab. Companies should be forced to support the device until the end of universe. It'd cut down the constant increasing rate of e-waste, rehashes of the same product that contain nothing innovative other than a new camera. And if $app isn't supported on the older hardware, that's then up to the user to upgrade rather than an path where your forced to upgrade. Better yet allow the user to swap-out the old device for the new version. I paid €900 outright for my iPhone XR. If Apple want me to use their new device then allow me to trade-in.
teeray 3y ago
It’s still yet another instance of an unsolved problem in this industry: what happens when a company gives up the will to provide supporting infrastructure to devices that they release? Traditionally, the consumer had a chance of continuing to run the device, since it was independent of cloud services. Now these devices are necessarily dependent on these companies with no duty of responsibility on their part. The companies demand subscription income to use the device and then kick users to the curb when the costs exceed that income. This is when consumer protection measures should step in to keep company’s “shareholder value optimization” tendencies in check. For example: keep all device schematics and protocols in escrow such that a community could continue to support the device.
HideousKojima 3y ago
Stop defending the billion dollar corporations when they make expensive hardware into expensive paperweights. Google could easily open source the software needed to run this without their cloud services.
- justrealist 3y ago
  don't tell me what to do.
alt227 3y ago
What if you only just bought it?

I can predict the whining already, but 8 years is really not a short lifespan for a product. That's an honest effort at getting a market, which failed. That's life.

Retric 3y ago

Nothing wrong with pulling the plug, but there’s a common expectation that unless you go out of business you’ll keep supporting a product for years after you stop selling it. Imagine if Honda decided to stop selling the Accord and on the same day their dealerships stopped carrying parts for it. Would you be willing to buy any model from them knowing it can be abandoned at any moment?

doublerabbit 3y ago
There is, my device is perfectly functional. You shouldn't need to replace $device because they want to make another quick cash grab. Companies should be forced to support the device until the end of universe. It'd cut down the constant increasing rate of e-waste, rehashes of the same product that contain nothing innovative other than a new camera. And if $app isn't supported on the older hardware, that's then up to the user to upgrade rather than an path where your forced to upgrade. Better yet allow the user to swap-out the old device for the new version. I paid €900 outright for my iPhone XR. If Apple want me to use their new device then allow me to trade-in.

teeray 3y ago

It’s still yet another instance of an unsolved problem in this industry: what happens when a company gives up the will to provide supporting infrastructure to devices that they release? Traditionally, the consumer had a chance of continuing to run the device, since it was independent of cloud services. Now these devices are necessarily dependent on these companies with no duty of responsibility on their part. The companies demand subscription income to use the device and then kick users to the curb when the costs exceed that income. This is when consumer protection measures should step in to keep company’s “shareholder value optimization” tendencies in check. For example: keep all device schematics and protocols in escrow such that a community could continue to support the device.

HideousKojima 3y ago

Stop defending the billion dollar corporations when they make expensive hardware into expensive paperweights. Google could easily open source the software needed to run this without their cloud services.

justrealist 3y ago
don't tell me what to do.

alt227 3y ago

What if you only just bought it?