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I don't know. Developing on Windows 11 + wsl has been a suprisingly good dx for me. Much better than my previous MacOS experience. I understand developers who s

by phowat 3y ago

I don't know. Developing on Windows 11 + wsl has been a suprisingly good dx for me. Much better than my previous MacOS experience. I understand developers who stay in the Apple ecosystem due to the unbeatable laptop hardware in the macbooks, but software wise most of them would be surprised with the current state on the windows side.

packetlost 3y ago
> Developing on Windows 11 + wsl has been a suprisingly good dx for me. Much better than my previous MacOS experience. I don't know what kind of development you're doing, but this does not match my experience at all.
bikelang 3y ago
WSL2 isn’t bad and is getting better but it basically falls apart when you need to run k8s workloads on it. I wish MacOS had native container support - but even without it I’ve not had any issues running a local dev cluster like I did with WSL
- harrygeez 3y ago
  as someone on the fence about WSL2 can you elaborate how does it fall apart? I was under the impression Docker with WSL2 backend runs great
  - bikelang 3y ago
    Docker with WSL2 runs fine and I use it for my light dev needs on my personal windows machine. Running K8s is the issue. WSL just had lots of instability issues in my experience when I had to run a handful of services for debugging stuff locally. I tried all sorts of configs to get it to work but it was inconsistent at best. Tons of wasted time. Enough so that our teams got work to get us macs instead (we were a windows shop spinning up a new cloud product - so windows didn’t really make sense as our daily driver anymore anyways). This was about 2 years ago. Maybe things are better now but 6 months of dealing with that instability was enough to sour me.
- pjmlp 3y ago
  Kubernetes runs just fine on Windows 11.
bafe 3y ago
I'm very happy with WSL2. The only (well known) problem is the issue with routing when running containers in WSL while behind a VPN. Strangely WSL-vpnkit can't help anymore after some recent updates. It seems WSL 2 2.0.0 will help with this

by phowat 3y ago

packetlost 3y ago

> Developing on Windows 11 + wsl has been a suprisingly good dx for me. Much better than my previous MacOS experience. I don't know what kind of development you're doing, but this does not match my experience at all.

bikelang 3y ago

WSL2 isn’t bad and is getting better but it basically falls apart when you need to run k8s workloads on it. I wish MacOS had native container support - but even without it I’ve not had any issues running a local dev cluster like I did with WSL

harrygeez 3y ago
as someone on the fence about WSL2 can you elaborate how does it fall apart? I was under the impression Docker with WSL2 backend runs great
- bikelang 3y ago
  Docker with WSL2 runs fine and I use it for my light dev needs on my personal windows machine. Running K8s is the issue. WSL just had lots of instability issues in my experience when I had to run a handful of services for debugging stuff locally. I tried all sorts of configs to get it to work but it was inconsistent at best. Tons of wasted time. Enough so that our teams got work to get us macs instead (we were a windows shop spinning up a new cloud product - so windows didn’t really make sense as our daily driver anymore anyways). This was about 2 years ago. Maybe things are better now but 6 months of dealing with that instability was enough to sour me.
pjmlp 3y ago
Kubernetes runs just fine on Windows 11.

bafe 3y ago

I'm very happy with WSL2. The only (well known) problem is the issue with routing when running containers in WSL while behind a VPN. Strangely WSL-vpnkit can't help anymore after some recent updates. It seems WSL 2 2.0.0 will help with this