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Always the same every year. New iphone full of software and hardware issues, completely unusable according to the press. Keeps selling like hot pancakes, no o

by fawnj 3y ago

Always the same every year. New iphone full of software and hardware issues, completely unusable according to the press. Keeps selling like hot pancakes, no one has any real problem with theirs (and if they do they get a replacement)

NBJack 3y ago
FWIW, this has been one of the worst seasons for mobile phone sales in a decade. [1] It may be telling if the latest from Apple will change that or not. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/17/global-smartphone-market-to-hit-decade-low-apple-could-take-top-spot.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/17/global-smartphone-market-to-...
- lotsofpulp 3y ago
  I expect mobile phone sales to continue to decrease due to market saturation and new phones not being sufficiently differentiable to old phones, so phone longevity increases too.
- WirelessGigabit 3y ago
  In reality the only upgrade from the 14 Pro Max to this one is 3x to 5x zoom and USB-C. And while I absolutely love USB-C, I do have a whole collection of lightning cables. Something in my way of using my iPhone(s) make pin 4 wear out insanely fast. Maybe it's because I carry it with me in the shower / hot tub. Not sure how the USB-C variant deals with the pitting. The button on the side and the titanium are a change, but not an upgrade. In fact, I would say the button is a downgrade from the old rocker. You could, in your pocket flip the rocker and know your phone was now on silent mode. Now you have to rely on vibration patterns.
  - zamadatix 3y ago
    I'll never be able to view "can flip my locked phone to silent mode while it's in my pocket" as anything but a design flaw in the first place. IMO, the greatest improvement to this area is finally being able to disable that physical action in software.
    - ProfessorLayton 3y ago
      The old switch could be disabled in software under accessibility settings, and silent mode can even be bound to a Shortcut! I have a 15 Pro, and while I like the new action button, I still do miss the old switch. There's no reason it couldn't have been added as an addition rather than a replacement.
      - zamadatix 3y ago
        I've never liked the accessibility way as I don't want the AssistiveTouch menu triggers either, nor do I want to toggle accessibility on and off to work around that nested problem. I just want my phone to do nothing (except the dual side long press power off fallback since there is no way around that need) when locked, not do a bunch of things to override what it's doing when unlocked. I feel like they half assed the button implementation though. I like it in that I can at least now turn it off but that really had nothing to do with the physical approach. The great part about it being a switch means it could actually have that option to operate as that "does nothing when locked but is still a useful action button" concept but that's not actually implemented, it still either does something all the time or doesn't do anything. That's probably asking for too much customizability for the way Apple's design mindset works though. I guess could see it still being just a switch too, where you can configure it to do something on toggle rather than read the raw state all the time, but again - probably asking too much of the way Apple likes to design things for "one size fits all" configuration options.
- TheHappyOddish 3y ago
  However as per your link, there is growth on the 'premium' side, of which the model in question is.

by fawnj 3y ago

NBJack 3y ago

FWIW, this has been one of the worst seasons for mobile phone sales in a decade. [1] It may be telling if the latest from Apple will change that or not. [1] https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/17/global-smartphone-market-to-hit-decade-low-apple-could-take-top-spot.html https://www.cnbc.com/2023/08/17/global-smartphone-market-to-...

lotsofpulp 3y ago
I expect mobile phone sales to continue to decrease due to market saturation and new phones not being sufficiently differentiable to old phones, so phone longevity increases too.
WirelessGigabit 3y ago
In reality the only upgrade from the 14 Pro Max to this one is 3x to 5x zoom and USB-C. And while I absolutely love USB-C, I do have a whole collection of lightning cables. Something in my way of using my iPhone(s) make pin 4 wear out insanely fast. Maybe it's because I carry it with me in the shower / hot tub. Not sure how the USB-C variant deals with the pitting. The button on the side and the titanium are a change, but not an upgrade. In fact, I would say the button is a downgrade from the old rocker. You could, in your pocket flip the rocker and know your phone was now on silent mode. Now you have to rely on vibration patterns.
- zamadatix 3y ago
  I'll never be able to view "can flip my locked phone to silent mode while it's in my pocket" as anything but a design flaw in the first place. IMO, the greatest improvement to this area is finally being able to disable that physical action in software.
  - ProfessorLayton 3y ago
    The old switch could be disabled in software under accessibility settings, and silent mode can even be bound to a Shortcut! I have a 15 Pro, and while I like the new action button, I still do miss the old switch. There's no reason it couldn't have been added as an addition rather than a replacement.
    - zamadatix 3y ago
      I've never liked the accessibility way as I don't want the AssistiveTouch menu triggers either, nor do I want to toggle accessibility on and off to work around that nested problem. I just want my phone to do nothing (except the dual side long press power off fallback since there is no way around that need) when locked, not do a bunch of things to override what it's doing when unlocked. I feel like they half assed the button implementation though. I like it in that I can at least now turn it off but that really had nothing to do with the physical approach. The great part about it being a switch means it could actually have that option to operate as that "does nothing when locked but is still a useful action button" concept but that's not actually implemented, it still either does something all the time or doesn't do anything. That's probably asking for too much customizability for the way Apple's design mindset works though. I guess could see it still being just a switch too, where you can configure it to do something on toggle rather than read the raw state all the time, but again - probably asking too much of the way Apple likes to design things for "one size fits all" configuration options.
TheHappyOddish 3y ago
However as per your link, there is growth on the 'premium' side, of which the model in question is.