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Are there countries where the police don't track where you are at all times? There is a qualitative difference between "could, with a valid reason and manual e

Are there countries where the police don't track where you are at all times? There is a qualitative difference between "could, with a valid reason and manual effort, track" vs. "automatically tracked and shared with your management chain". Any company with badge readers has an access log. In the before-times, that log would only be used for a legal or HR investigation, after the fact, when there are other performance problems. This is going to be used to punish employees, semi-automatically, probably even if they are otherwise performing well.

hef19898 3y ago
In fact, in Germany hour-booking is independant from access-badging. And employers are forbidden to cross-reference those systems.
- lnsru 3y ago
  Any source for such a bold claim? Our Betriebsrat is absolutely fine when managers check our attendance by looking at hour booking entries and associated locations.
  - hef19898 3y ago
    Hour bookings and locations are dine, as in you saying at which location you clocked in and out. Referencing badging to enter and exit a location to cross-reference clocking in and out data is, usually, a complete no-go. Unless, of course, a specific employee is suspected of cheating. But then I assume it depends on the BR as well, but each and every BR I encountered so far was strictly oppossed to this kind of data cross referencing. Unless, of course, entering and exiting a location is used for clocking in/out, because then there is no data to cross reference.
hotpotamus 3y ago
I remember when the CEO of a company I worked for stepped down and I encouraged a friend to run for the position saying I'd vote for him. I thought it was amusing, but I've always found it funny that centrally-planned dictatorships are seen as a terrible form of government, but also essentially how every private company is run. (In the US at least - I have a vague notion that workers get seats on company boards in other countries at least.)

hef19898 3y ago

In fact, in Germany hour-booking is independant from access-badging. And employers are forbidden to cross-reference those systems.

lnsru 3y ago
Any source for such a bold claim? Our Betriebsrat is absolutely fine when managers check our attendance by looking at hour booking entries and associated locations.
- hef19898 3y ago
  Hour bookings and locations are dine, as in you saying at which location you clocked in and out. Referencing badging to enter and exit a location to cross-reference clocking in and out data is, usually, a complete no-go. Unless, of course, a specific employee is suspected of cheating. But then I assume it depends on the BR as well, but each and every BR I encountered so far was strictly oppossed to this kind of data cross referencing. Unless, of course, entering and exiting a location is used for clocking in/out, because then there is no data to cross reference.

hotpotamus 3y ago

I remember when the CEO of a company I worked for stepped down and I encouraged a friend to run for the position saying I'd vote for him. I thought it was amusing, but I've always found it funny that centrally-planned dictatorships are seen as a terrible form of government, but also essentially how every private company is run. (In the US at least - I have a vague notion that workers get seats on company boards in other countries at least.)