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>I am not misusing the word Yes you are, see: >they are just progressively making things worse That's things going "shit". That's been around for as long as
by throwaway5Am1k 3y ago
>I am not misusing the word
Yes you are, see:
>they are just progressively making things worse
That's things going "shit". That's been around for as long as software has been around (e.g. Borland). Enshitification is a very specific thing: https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/ https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/
To quote it:
I call this enshittification, and it is a seemingly inevitable consequence arising from the combination of the ease of changing how a platform allocates value, combined with the nature of a "two-sided market," where a platform sits between buyers and sellers, hold each hostage to the other, raking off an ever-larger share of the value that passes between them.
>shift the Overton window
You're all over the place. This has nothing to do with enshitification.
- Pannoniae 3y agoIt is enshittification because they are making the software worse in opposition to the users. They don't care that the users hate the changes, they still do it anyway, deliberately.
- rpeden 3y agoHave you considered that many users do like the changes, and you just aren't one of them? I first used desktop Linux in 1996 and liked it well enough. I remember using GNOME 2 and Xfce around 2010ish and liking both of them well enough, too. And they're still around if I want to use them. But honestly? I don't use them because I like modern GNOME better. I use it every day, everything just works, and I like it more than the alternatives.
- Pannoniae 3y agoYes, I have, but fundamentally, using old stuff is usually quite hard. If I could revert to it, it would be great, but those are usually not too compatible with today's technology. I use those despite their horrible UI, not because of their horrible UI.
- rpeden 3y agoI respect that, and I hope my question didn't seem like criticism. I suppose we're fortunate that options like Xfce and MATE are around, but I can relate re: compatibility. Truthfully I'd be just as happy with MATE as with GNOME 3.x, but last time I tried I ran into issues with high DPI and mixed DPI and didn't want to invest time trying to get it all working to my satisfaction.
- Pannoniae 3y agoThank you very much, and you are amazing! Personally, I am just happy KDE exists and they actually listen to users. There is not much out there in terms of desktop environments like this, sadly:)
- liotier 3y ago> But honestly? I don't use them because I like modern GNOME better. I use it every day, everything just works, and I like it more than the alternatives Same here, but with KDE - and I'm a former XFCE user, and before that I was a Gnome user... None of us is the whole market !
- epidemian 3y agoWords have meaning. You used a word that has a specific meaning to refer to something else, hence the miscommunication.