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> Linux desktop is more viable than ever. Other then in most stuff migrating to the browser how so? Browser + terminal has been a good combo for a long time, t

> Linux desktop is more viable than ever. Other then in most stuff migrating to the browser how so? Browser + terminal has been a good combo for a long time, the desktop enviornment only have suffered enshittification due to a push to touch screen oriented UI conventions.

jeltz 3y ago
PipeWire made sound finally work flawlessly for me on Linux, Proton made it possible to play a ton of games, graphics drivers being stable, especially for Vulcan and Firefox enabling hardware acceleration. Some things are worse as you note, but there have been som important improvements.
- oblio 3y ago
  Is there a mainstream laptop on which Linux runs as well as Windows? I'd really want one that doesn't cost 3k+.
  - MaKey 3y ago
    The Linux support for ThinkPads is pretty good I think. I've been using a T14 AMD Gen 1 for three years now with Ubuntu. The hardware is supported by the LVFS too. I'm upgrading to a T14 AMD Gen 4 shortly and will be running Linux (Ubuntu) again.
  - erwincoumans 3y ago
    ASUS - ROG Zephyrus M16 16" 240Hz Gaming Laptop runs Ubuntu 22.04 very well in my opinion: CUDA, Vulkan, Wifi, bluetooth, sleep etc. I installed Linux on a second SSD next to Windows on the original SSD. The version with NVIDIA RTX 4070 costs 1700 USD at Best Buy (the one with RTX 4090 may exceed your budget)
  - NegativeK 3y ago
    Dell XPS 13. Framework.
  - gilcot 3y ago
    What about Lenovo? https://www.phoronix.com/review/thinkpad-p14s-gen4-linux https://www.phoronix.com/review/thinkpad-p14s-gen4-linux
  - Jenda_ 3y ago
    I have HP ProBook 430 G6 and I have not noticed any problems (I don't know how Windows run on this, though - never tried). I have never tested the fingerprint reader, all other features work.
  - rpmisms 3y ago
    Any recent Thinkpad will do fine. The Apple Silicon laptops can't run Windows, but can run linux, so there's that, too. Also, Dell XPS laptops do very well with linux.
jraph 3y ago
I've not seen this on KDE or Xfce, there's choice :-)
Jenda_ 3y ago
- wide HW support. 10 years ago it was not guaranteed that suspend will work on a random machine, 15 years ago we were struggling with ndiswrapper to get wifi working. - professional domain-specific software now available, both free (such as KiCad) and commercial (such as DaVinci Resolve) and supported by vendors on Linux.
niam 3y ago
Are you using that word because it has the funny swear part in it, or because that's how you believe other people have been using it?

jeltz 3y ago

PipeWire made sound finally work flawlessly for me on Linux, Proton made it possible to play a ton of games, graphics drivers being stable, especially for Vulcan and Firefox enabling hardware acceleration. Some things are worse as you note, but there have been som important improvements.

oblio 3y ago
Is there a mainstream laptop on which Linux runs as well as Windows? I'd really want one that doesn't cost 3k+.
- MaKey 3y ago
  The Linux support for ThinkPads is pretty good I think. I've been using a T14 AMD Gen 1 for three years now with Ubuntu. The hardware is supported by the LVFS too. I'm upgrading to a T14 AMD Gen 4 shortly and will be running Linux (Ubuntu) again.
- erwincoumans 3y ago
  ASUS - ROG Zephyrus M16 16" 240Hz Gaming Laptop runs Ubuntu 22.04 very well in my opinion: CUDA, Vulkan, Wifi, bluetooth, sleep etc. I installed Linux on a second SSD next to Windows on the original SSD. The version with NVIDIA RTX 4070 costs 1700 USD at Best Buy (the one with RTX 4090 may exceed your budget)
- NegativeK 3y ago
  Dell XPS 13. Framework.
- gilcot 3y ago
  What about Lenovo? https://www.phoronix.com/review/thinkpad-p14s-gen4-linux https://www.phoronix.com/review/thinkpad-p14s-gen4-linux
- Jenda_ 3y ago
  I have HP ProBook 430 G6 and I have not noticed any problems (I don't know how Windows run on this, though - never tried). I have never tested the fingerprint reader, all other features work.
- rpmisms 3y ago
  Any recent Thinkpad will do fine. The Apple Silicon laptops can't run Windows, but can run linux, so there's that, too. Also, Dell XPS laptops do very well with linux.

jraph 3y ago

I've not seen this on KDE or Xfce, there's choice :-)

Jenda_ 3y ago

- wide HW support. 10 years ago it was not guaranteed that suspend will work on a random machine, 15 years ago we were struggling with ndiswrapper to get wifi working. - professional domain-specific software now available, both free (such as KiCad) and commercial (such as DaVinci Resolve) and supported by vendors on Linux.

niam 3y ago

Are you using that word because it has the funny swear part in it, or because that's how you believe other people have been using it?