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Original source, as cited in the article: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-offices-france-raided-part-190011776.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia

by aorth 3y ago

Original source, as cited in the article: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-offices-france-raided-part-190011776.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-offices-france-raided-...

bestouff 3y ago
TL;DR: French antitrust enforcers raided the offices of a business suspected of engaging in “anticompetitive practices in the graphics cards sector,” targeting a company that the Wall Street Journal identified as Nvidia Corp The move suggests Nvidia’s dominant role in supplying chips for artificial intelligence tasks is coming under closer scrutiny.
- jandrese 3y ago
  Eh, this is more a case of the competitors failing than nVidia abusing their market position. Maybe if AMD and Intel put more effort into making their drivers not suck for AI they could sell millions of cards too.
  - fmajid 3y ago
    nVidia is playing favorites in allocating its GPUs. It goes beyond the graphics card market, they are trying to corner the market for Cloud AI: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/nvidia-muscles-into-cloud-services-rankling-aws?rc=6k0bdw https://www.theinformation.com/articles/nvidia-muscles-into-... https://www.theinformation.com/articles/in-an-unusual-move-nvidia-wants-to-know-its-customers-customers?rc=6k0bdw https://www.theinformation.com/articles/in-an-unusual-move-n... https://www.theinformation.com/articles/why-nvidia-aids-cloud-rivals-of-aws-google-and-microsoft?rc=6k0bdw https://www.theinformation.com/articles/why-nvidia-aids-clou... I realize it's hard to sympathize with AWS as a victim, but any monopolist like nVidia leveraging its monopoly in one sector (AI chips) to gain a monopoly in another is the kind of antitrust violation that is precisely what competition authorities are made to investigate.
    - treprinum 3y ago
      There are queues for H100 and everybody wants to buy them. How should they solve the allocation problem? They can also pull out of the market and sell elsewhere comfortably without any crazy bureaucrats harassing them because some French company/branch lost a bid and overestimated its importance to nVidia.
      - hef19898 3y ago
        Those monopolist allocation issues usually involve legal cpunsle, cannot be based on sales price or competition, cannot be used to corner markets and so on. In the end, everyone should get an equal haircut, and nobody shoupd be able to jump the line. Classic issue in anti-trust. Source: Had some intense months discussing exactly such kind of situation. Hence I know it is absolutely solveable, but there are always people who just cannot accept to follow rules and accept constraints, which usually leads to some penalties down the line.
  - baby 3y ago
    We’ll see about that I guess
  - capableweb 3y ago
    > Eh, this is more a case of the competitors failing than nVidia abusing their market position. Supposedly, but usually stable governments don't do raid on publicly traded companies on a whim, so maybe there is more to the story we don't know about yet?

by aorth 3y ago

Original source, as cited in the article: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-offices-france-raided-part-190011776.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/nvidia-offices-france-raided-...

bestouff 3y ago

TL;DR: French antitrust enforcers raided the offices of a business suspected of engaging in “anticompetitive practices in the graphics cards sector,” targeting a company that the Wall Street Journal identified as Nvidia Corp The move suggests Nvidia’s dominant role in supplying chips for artificial intelligence tasks is coming under closer scrutiny.

jandrese 3y ago
Eh, this is more a case of the competitors failing than nVidia abusing their market position. Maybe if AMD and Intel put more effort into making their drivers not suck for AI they could sell millions of cards too.
- fmajid 3y ago
  nVidia is playing favorites in allocating its GPUs. It goes beyond the graphics card market, they are trying to corner the market for Cloud AI: https://www.theinformation.com/articles/nvidia-muscles-into-cloud-services-rankling-aws?rc=6k0bdw https://www.theinformation.com/articles/nvidia-muscles-into-... https://www.theinformation.com/articles/in-an-unusual-move-nvidia-wants-to-know-its-customers-customers?rc=6k0bdw https://www.theinformation.com/articles/in-an-unusual-move-n... https://www.theinformation.com/articles/why-nvidia-aids-cloud-rivals-of-aws-google-and-microsoft?rc=6k0bdw https://www.theinformation.com/articles/why-nvidia-aids-clou... I realize it's hard to sympathize with AWS as a victim, but any monopolist like nVidia leveraging its monopoly in one sector (AI chips) to gain a monopoly in another is the kind of antitrust violation that is precisely what competition authorities are made to investigate.
  - treprinum 3y ago
    There are queues for H100 and everybody wants to buy them. How should they solve the allocation problem? They can also pull out of the market and sell elsewhere comfortably without any crazy bureaucrats harassing them because some French company/branch lost a bid and overestimated its importance to nVidia.
    - hef19898 3y ago
      Those monopolist allocation issues usually involve legal cpunsle, cannot be based on sales price or competition, cannot be used to corner markets and so on. In the end, everyone should get an equal haircut, and nobody shoupd be able to jump the line. Classic issue in anti-trust. Source: Had some intense months discussing exactly such kind of situation. Hence I know it is absolutely solveable, but there are always people who just cannot accept to follow rules and accept constraints, which usually leads to some penalties down the line.
- baby 3y ago
  We’ll see about that I guess
- capableweb 3y ago
  > Eh, this is more a case of the competitors failing than nVidia abusing their market position. Supposedly, but usually stable governments don't do raid on publicly traded companies on a whim, so maybe there is more to the story we don't know about yet?