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On the hand, I agree. But on the other hand, I love the innovation here, because it could lead us to a day where your phone is your computer. Plug it into a key

On the hand, I agree. But on the other hand, I love the innovation here, because it could lead us to a day where your phone is your computer. Plug it into a keyboard and monitor and get to work.

pphysch 3y ago
Samsung DeX? https://www.samsung.com/us/apps/dex/ https://www.samsung.com/us/apps/dex/
- thewileyone 3y ago
  No, no it's a new innovation that Apple created, but already exists.
- warkdarrior 3y ago
  Please stop making stuff up. That product cannot exist until Apple invents it.
- iforgotpassword 3y ago
  https://youtu.be/PwZl0xYemF0?t=1m56s https://youtu.be/PwZl0xYemF0?t=1m56s
melling 3y ago
Plug in? Make it all wireless.
Trencin 3y ago
I don't Like how the phone merges the utility of a camera,and watch. Or the ebook reader replaces the book. (Or IPod to iPhone) I don't agree with the concept of merging of their functions, as it impacts their utility. You lose the essence of its purpose. And on the other hand, I think it would be a win if Apple could merge the functionality of the iPhone with the Apple Watch, but given it eat into the bottom line of competing products, would they? Would they allow the iPhone to impact MacBook sales for example. When Apple is able to replace the iPhone with an Apple Watch, I think that is a win for utility.
mstipetic 3y ago
I think we’re already there, but Apple is afraid to pull the plug on this as it would cannibalise so much of their other products
8fingerlouie 3y ago
I'm still waiting for the day when my phone just "slots" into a dock on my desktop, and all the apps will "automagically" transform into desktop apps with keyboard/mouse shortcuts. Not just talking scaling to whatever, or running a phone app on my laptop, but a complete "reskin" of the application for environment that is currently executing it. If we're talking Word, i want the mobile word experience on my phone, but the full blown desktop experience when docked into a monitor with keyboard/mouse. You could even take it one step further and make the dock indicate the intended purpose, i.e. you'd have a dock in a meeting room that suggests "presentation mode" or "meeting mode" and instead of blasting your desktop to the screen/projector, it instead shows as a second presentation desktop.
- theGnuMe 3y ago
  yeah I mean the 15 pro max 1TB costs as much as a laptop so.. it should slot in with a keyboard and mouse.
Kegenek 3y ago
This is of course just my opinion but we’re moving towards a high speed interconnected world- 5G, (6G?), peer to peer internet, starlink (eh?), etc. One idea I’ve been playing around with quite a bit lately has been offloading computational data and even OS- obviously I’m not the first one on this, but I think at one point just turning our phones in to input/ receivers for some sort of cloud based OS- where basically all our phones have are an input module, battery, a strong receiver, and a storage for caching. Then you could start making super light hardware- computers, tablets, phones all accessing on singular OS that just reformats depending on the device. And we wouldn’t need to upgrade our personal hardware anymore we could just upgrade the racks. Once everything is interconnected we wouldn’t even need cell plans either, we could just communicate through the existing cloud devices. Anyway, that would be cool.
- Hypocritelefty 3y ago
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pjmlp 3y ago
Samsung DEX and Windows Phone Continuum. The market has already spoken.
- DANmode 3y ago
  People keep foisting DEX forward as a reason why convergence isn't demanded by the market. But, demand is created by early adopters (the people here), and those people don't use DEX because they don't use Samsung, due to Samsung being considered janky-to-insecure, depending on who you ask.
  - pjmlp 3y ago
    Samsung is the Android market leader.
    - jwestbury 3y ago
      Yes -- and for many, this is all the proof necessary that iOS is a superior ecosystem. I was a longtime Android user. I had several Galaxy and Pixel devices. I'm now an iOS convert, because all that "it just works" nonsense turns out not to be nonsense.
    - DANmode 3y ago
      Body count means what, in a market like ours? Marketing budget? Good distribution? What technology-related point are you making?
  - the_third_wave 3y ago
    > due to Samsung being considered janky-to-insecure, depending on who you ask If you ask a member of the Church of Apple, yes, you'll get that answer. Ask any heretic and they'll give different answers ranging from 'I want to keep things separate so I don't flush my PC down the loo next time I forget to take it out of my back pocket' to 'I want to keep my PC personal and don't trust ${vendor} to abide by that promise'. As to 'Samsung' (or, rather, Android) being 'insecure' it is remarkable to see this premise being pushed. From what I gather there is not much difference between Android and iOS in 'security' - if anything it seems to be iOS which is more often in need of patching against yet another 0-day/0-click related to problems with iMessage or other text-parsing related bugs where Android 'security' problems seem to be more related to the lack of updates for older devices.

On the hand, I agree. But on the other hand, I love the innovation here, because it could lead us to a day where your phone is your computer. Plug it into a keyboard and monitor and get to work.

pphysch 3y ago

Samsung DeX? https://www.samsung.com/us/apps/dex/ https://www.samsung.com/us/apps/dex/

thewileyone 3y ago
No, no it's a new innovation that Apple created, but already exists.
warkdarrior 3y ago
Please stop making stuff up. That product cannot exist until Apple invents it.
iforgotpassword 3y ago
https://youtu.be/PwZl0xYemF0?t=1m56s https://youtu.be/PwZl0xYemF0?t=1m56s

melling 3y ago

Plug in? Make it all wireless.

Trencin 3y ago

I don't Like how the phone merges the utility of a camera,and watch. Or the ebook reader replaces the book. (Or IPod to iPhone) I don't agree with the concept of merging of their functions, as it impacts their utility. You lose the essence of its purpose. And on the other hand, I think it would be a win if Apple could merge the functionality of the iPhone with the Apple Watch, but given it eat into the bottom line of competing products, would they? Would they allow the iPhone to impact MacBook sales for example. When Apple is able to replace the iPhone with an Apple Watch, I think that is a win for utility.

mstipetic 3y ago

I think we’re already there, but Apple is afraid to pull the plug on this as it would cannibalise so much of their other products

8fingerlouie 3y ago

I'm still waiting for the day when my phone just "slots" into a dock on my desktop, and all the apps will "automagically" transform into desktop apps with keyboard/mouse shortcuts. Not just talking scaling to whatever, or running a phone app on my laptop, but a complete "reskin" of the application for environment that is currently executing it. If we're talking Word, i want the mobile word experience on my phone, but the full blown desktop experience when docked into a monitor with keyboard/mouse. You could even take it one step further and make the dock indicate the intended purpose, i.e. you'd have a dock in a meeting room that suggests "presentation mode" or "meeting mode" and instead of blasting your desktop to the screen/projector, it instead shows as a second presentation desktop.

theGnuMe 3y ago
yeah I mean the 15 pro max 1TB costs as much as a laptop so.. it should slot in with a keyboard and mouse.

Kegenek 3y ago

This is of course just my opinion but we’re moving towards a high speed interconnected world- 5G, (6G?), peer to peer internet, starlink (eh?), etc. One idea I’ve been playing around with quite a bit lately has been offloading computational data and even OS- obviously I’m not the first one on this, but I think at one point just turning our phones in to input/ receivers for some sort of cloud based OS- where basically all our phones have are an input module, battery, a strong receiver, and a storage for caching. Then you could start making super light hardware- computers, tablets, phones all accessing on singular OS that just reformats depending on the device. And we wouldn’t need to upgrade our personal hardware anymore we could just upgrade the racks. Once everything is interconnected we wouldn’t even need cell plans either, we could just communicate through the existing cloud devices. Anyway, that would be cool.

Hypocritelefty 3y ago
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pjmlp 3y ago

Samsung DEX and Windows Phone Continuum. The market has already spoken.

DANmode 3y ago
People keep foisting DEX forward as a reason why convergence isn't demanded by the market. But, demand is created by early adopters (the people here), and those people don't use DEX because they don't use Samsung, due to Samsung being considered janky-to-insecure, depending on who you ask.
- pjmlp 3y ago
  Samsung is the Android market leader.
  - jwestbury 3y ago
    Yes -- and for many, this is all the proof necessary that iOS is a superior ecosystem. I was a longtime Android user. I had several Galaxy and Pixel devices. I'm now an iOS convert, because all that "it just works" nonsense turns out not to be nonsense.
  - DANmode 3y ago
    Body count means what, in a market like ours? Marketing budget? Good distribution? What technology-related point are you making?
- the_third_wave 3y ago
  > due to Samsung being considered janky-to-insecure, depending on who you ask If you ask a member of the Church of Apple, yes, you'll get that answer. Ask any heretic and they'll give different answers ranging from 'I want to keep things separate so I don't flush my PC down the loo next time I forget to take it out of my back pocket' to 'I want to keep my PC personal and don't trust ${vendor} to abide by that promise'. As to 'Samsung' (or, rather, Android) being 'insecure' it is remarkable to see this premise being pushed. From what I gather there is not much difference between Android and iOS in 'security' - if anything it seems to be iOS which is more often in need of patching against yet another 0-day/0-click related to problems with iMessage or other text-parsing related bugs where Android 'security' problems seem to be more related to the lack of updates for older devices.