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I love how out-of-touch HN comments can be sometimes, it’s a breath of fresh air for me. Outlook the mail software (as opposed to the coat of paint applied to h

by c0pium 3y ago

I love how out-of-touch HN comments can be sometimes, it’s a breath of fresh air for me. Outlook the mail software (as opposed to the coat of paint applied to hotmail) is used by almost the entire Fortune 500, basically every government at every size, and a decent chunk of the Windows-using western world (which is most of it). If you’re wondering why you have trouble selling to enterprise and government clients, this type of gap in perception is a big part of it.

xav0989 3y ago
I think it was more a comment on the fact that Outlook is the mail client, not the MTA.
coryrc 3y ago
The point is mail is run through Microsoft Exchange, not the client software.
- c0pium 3y ago
  Given how wrong the rest of the comment was, confusing mail client and mail server seemed like small potatoes. Especially when it can be argued that mail flows through the client if you squint a bit.
  - dangggg 3y ago
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  - wolverine876 3y ago
    What was wrong with the rest of the comment?
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- threeseed 3y ago
  Many enterprises have moved to Microsoft 365. Which uses Outlook.com and not Exchange.
  - wolverine876 3y ago
    It's hosted (at Microsoft), but it's still Exchange. Though maybe there's a lower-end, non-Exchange option? In any case, the article is a little confused.
  - lwkl 3y ago
    The mail service in Microsoft 365 is called Exchange Online and it‘s based on Microsoft Exchange. Outlook.com (formerly) seems to have been been moved to the same infrastructure as Microsoft 365.
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wolverine876 3y ago
Thanks for explaining!
poorlyknit 3y ago
Gee, I wonder why F500s are getting ransomwared left and right :) I get that giving your drones software that is widely used is the easiest path but ActiveDirectory, Outlook and Windows are basically three of the horsemen of insecure corporate networks. The fourth is probably adware disguised as virus scanners.
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- keep_reading 3y ago
  Ok I'll bite -- what are they supposed to use instead of ActiveDirectory? We going back to Netware? Oh you don't want them to use Windows at all? So what, F500s are gonna run on Ubuntu and OpenLDAP? That should be smooth as butter and more secure out of the box /s
alephnerd 3y ago
> If you’re wondering why you have trouble selling to enterprise and government clients, this type of gap in perception is a big part of it. Most HN founders aren't on YC anymore aside from their 1 free Show HN post and the account you make for the YC app. Speaking from experience, they have much healthier discussions on Bookface, Twitter, and in person. You're basically stuck talking with salty burnouts on here (to paraphrase a YC friend of mine who has publicly hated on HN)

by c0pium 3y ago

xav0989 3y ago

I think it was more a comment on the fact that Outlook is the mail client, not the MTA.

coryrc 3y ago

The point is mail is run through Microsoft Exchange, not the client software.

c0pium 3y ago
Given how wrong the rest of the comment was, confusing mail client and mail server seemed like small potatoes. Especially when it can be argued that mail flows through the client if you squint a bit.
- dangggg 3y ago
  [dead]
- wolverine876 3y ago
  What was wrong with the rest of the comment?
  - deleted 3y ago
    [deleted]
threeseed 3y ago
Many enterprises have moved to Microsoft 365. Which uses Outlook.com and not Exchange.
- wolverine876 3y ago
  It's hosted (at Microsoft), but it's still Exchange. Though maybe there's a lower-end, non-Exchange option? In any case, the article is a little confused.
- lwkl 3y ago
  The mail service in Microsoft 365 is called Exchange Online and it‘s based on Microsoft Exchange. Outlook.com (formerly) seems to have been been moved to the same infrastructure as Microsoft 365.

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wolverine876 3y ago

Thanks for explaining!

poorlyknit 3y ago

Gee, I wonder why F500s are getting ransomwared left and right :) I get that giving your drones software that is widely used is the easiest path but ActiveDirectory, Outlook and Windows are basically three of the horsemen of insecure corporate networks. The fourth is probably adware disguised as virus scanners.

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keep_reading 3y ago
Ok I'll bite -- what are they supposed to use instead of ActiveDirectory? We going back to Netware? Oh you don't want them to use Windows at all? So what, F500s are gonna run on Ubuntu and OpenLDAP? That should be smooth as butter and more secure out of the box /s

alephnerd 3y ago

> If you’re wondering why you have trouble selling to enterprise and government clients, this type of gap in perception is a big part of it. Most HN founders aren't on YC anymore aside from their 1 free Show HN post and the account you make for the YC app. Speaking from experience, they have much healthier discussions on Bookface, Twitter, and in person. You're basically stuck talking with salty burnouts on here (to paraphrase a YC friend of mine who has publicly hated on HN)