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> Twitter hasn't gone anywhere. Twitter the service hasn’t gone anywhere but Twitter the, I dunno, culture? is long gone. A series of changes have made it a no

> Twitter hasn't gone anywhere. Twitter the service hasn’t gone anywhere but Twitter the, I dunno, culture? is long gone. A series of changes have made it a notably worse place to spend time… so I’m spending a lot less time there. That said I’m not really using Mastodon either despite having signed up. It’s missing something too.

pseg134 3y ago
Almost everyone is still using Twitter, so it’s you that is gone not the culture.
- threeseed 3y ago
  In the Australian App Store right now: - TikTok (#11) - Instagram (#12) - Facebook (#18) - Threads (#25) - X (#123) So based on available data it clearly isn't where it used to be in terms of popularity. And based on poor Twitter Blue subscription numbers [1] and the fact advertising revenue has halved [2] the company isn't financially doing so well either. [1] https://github.com/travisbrown/blue https://github.com/travisbrown/blue [2] https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/twitters-ad-revenue-has-slumped-by-half-elon-musk-admits-97087z9m0 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/twitters-ad-revenue-has-s...
  - maxlin 3y ago
    This post reserves a prize for illuminating how something that looks authorative due to words like "based on data" and listing sources can still be extremely misinforming. Here's some real data: https://www.similarweb.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/twitter_threads_3.png https://www.similarweb.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/t... TLDR: Threads basically died quickly after its birth. Twitter for user count is doing pretty much as good as it has ever been doing. Considering the pointless outrage about it going to crash is dying, advertisers are re-warming their feet after ADL's previous nefarious influence on them seems to be waning, I can't think but of the "Twitter dead" rhetoric coming to its end permanently.
    - threeseed 3y ago
      Similarweb doesn't know what the DAU/MAUs are for social networks. It's a statistical estimation similar to TV ratings. App Store positions are accurate.
- afavour 3y ago
  I mean, that’s clearly not true. But either way it’s funny, I think the doomsayers were so over the top at the start (“Twitter is going to die tonight!”) that absolutely any level of activity is held up as a great success. Prioritising the replies of people who pay money for it was a body blow. Compensating those users for the engagement they generate is the death knell. You used to be able to find a ton of interesting conversation on Twitter, now the replies are filled with trolly garbage trying to prompt hate clicks. It’s just a bad way to spend time.
  - insin 3y ago
    > Prioritising the replies of people who pay money for it was a body blow A Twitter reply thread will only load around 200 Tweets in total, so on Tweets which have been in front of a lot of eyeballs, it's more likely that your reply will never be seen by anyone even if you pay, which defeats their whole purpose for ruining reply threads as a selling point. Just an incredibly short-sighted change. My browser extension for Twitter [0] can hide replies from "verified" users - if you look at any Elon Musk tweet with this feature enabled, you'll be lucky if you see more than 1 reply. Quote Tweets are where it's at now if you want to find comments on busy tweets which are somewhat better than all the boosted Twitter Blue users posting cry-laugh emojis, and they've recently made those take multiple clicks to access, from one of 2 different menus (my extension also restores the old Quote Tweets link). [0] https://jbscript.dev/control-panel-for-twitter https://jbscript.dev/control-panel-for-twitter
starik36 3y ago
Now that lots of opinionated people have left Twitter, I feel, it's quieter and more pleasant to use. Not by a massive amount, but still. Perhaps its my self-selecting bubble of people I follow, but it feels more like a source of interesting information now than a place where people fight with each other endlessly.
- trog 3y ago
  > Now that lots of opinionated people have left Twitter what twitter are you using today where the opinionated people have left
  - starik36 3y ago
    Like I said, it's possible that it's my bubble of following mainly spaceflight, programmers and comedians. The fighting in the comments has quieted down a bit and it could a consequence that some of the people (some specific ones that I know of) that were the loudest left for Mastodon a while back.
- afavour 3y ago
  > Now that lots of opinionated people have left Twitter lol? But seriously, the platform now incentivises people posting bad opinions and starting arguments because it compensates Twitter Blue users based on “engagement”. Reactionary trolling is the inevitable consequence.

pseg134 3y ago

Almost everyone is still using Twitter, so it’s you that is gone not the culture.

threeseed 3y ago
In the Australian App Store right now: - TikTok (#11) - Instagram (#12) - Facebook (#18) - Threads (#25) - X (#123) So based on available data it clearly isn't where it used to be in terms of popularity. And based on poor Twitter Blue subscription numbers [1] and the fact advertising revenue has halved [2] the company isn't financially doing so well either. [1] https://github.com/travisbrown/blue https://github.com/travisbrown/blue [2] https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/twitters-ad-revenue-has-slumped-by-half-elon-musk-admits-97087z9m0 https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/twitters-ad-revenue-has-s...
- maxlin 3y ago
  This post reserves a prize for illuminating how something that looks authorative due to words like "based on data" and listing sources can still be extremely misinforming. Here's some real data: https://www.similarweb.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/twitter_threads_3.png https://www.similarweb.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2023/07/t... TLDR: Threads basically died quickly after its birth. Twitter for user count is doing pretty much as good as it has ever been doing. Considering the pointless outrage about it going to crash is dying, advertisers are re-warming their feet after ADL's previous nefarious influence on them seems to be waning, I can't think but of the "Twitter dead" rhetoric coming to its end permanently.
  - threeseed 3y ago
    Similarweb doesn't know what the DAU/MAUs are for social networks. It's a statistical estimation similar to TV ratings. App Store positions are accurate.
afavour 3y ago
I mean, that’s clearly not true. But either way it’s funny, I think the doomsayers were so over the top at the start (“Twitter is going to die tonight!”) that absolutely any level of activity is held up as a great success. Prioritising the replies of people who pay money for it was a body blow. Compensating those users for the engagement they generate is the death knell. You used to be able to find a ton of interesting conversation on Twitter, now the replies are filled with trolly garbage trying to prompt hate clicks. It’s just a bad way to spend time.
- insin 3y ago
  > Prioritising the replies of people who pay money for it was a body blow A Twitter reply thread will only load around 200 Tweets in total, so on Tweets which have been in front of a lot of eyeballs, it's more likely that your reply will never be seen by anyone even if you pay, which defeats their whole purpose for ruining reply threads as a selling point. Just an incredibly short-sighted change. My browser extension for Twitter [0] can hide replies from "verified" users - if you look at any Elon Musk tweet with this feature enabled, you'll be lucky if you see more than 1 reply. Quote Tweets are where it's at now if you want to find comments on busy tweets which are somewhat better than all the boosted Twitter Blue users posting cry-laugh emojis, and they've recently made those take multiple clicks to access, from one of 2 different menus (my extension also restores the old Quote Tweets link). [0] https://jbscript.dev/control-panel-for-twitter https://jbscript.dev/control-panel-for-twitter

starik36 3y ago

Now that lots of opinionated people have left Twitter, I feel, it's quieter and more pleasant to use. Not by a massive amount, but still. Perhaps its my self-selecting bubble of people I follow, but it feels more like a source of interesting information now than a place where people fight with each other endlessly.

trog 3y ago
> Now that lots of opinionated people have left Twitter what twitter are you using today where the opinionated people have left
- starik36 3y ago
  Like I said, it's possible that it's my bubble of following mainly spaceflight, programmers and comedians. The fighting in the comments has quieted down a bit and it could a consequence that some of the people (some specific ones that I know of) that were the loudest left for Mastodon a while back.
afavour 3y ago
> Now that lots of opinionated people have left Twitter lol? But seriously, the platform now incentivises people posting bad opinions and starting arguments because it compensates Twitter Blue users based on “engagement”. Reactionary trolling is the inevitable consequence.