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Paper
- dwilber 15y agoThis looks really great. Makes me wonder if its time to actually pick up a stylus...
- LinaLauneBaer 15y agoVery well done guys! The UI is top notch.
- wsxiaoys 15y agoIs there an android version?
- turing 15y agoUnfortunately no. In an interview with The Verge one of the developers said that they were open to the idea of moving to new platforms, but that their resources were too tight for the time being. Imagine this on a future version of the Galaxy Note. Perfect application for the increased fidelity of the Note stylus.
- jianshen 15y agoNo. Video said this was designed exclusively for the iPad. That also means no iPhone version either.
- turbulence 15y agoI give it 3 weeks and someone has a similar version for Android.
- anigbrowl 15y agoAutodesk Sketchbook pro is, though: http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/item?siteID=123112&id=13872203 http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/item?siteID=123112&#... Works great, and has more features; pen /brush editing, layers, export to .psd...
- mrtron 15y agoFirst time I have thought: "I am going to get a stylus for my iPad."
- nullflux 15y agoI really want to love this. iPad hardware just doesn't deliver. The problem isn't that nice drawing software like this doesn't exist, it's that styli on iPad still suck. The capacitive screen (even on "new" iPad) only has about a 6mm capacitive resolution, so you're stuck fudging the fck along with a sausage for a stylus. Ars had a good review[1] on the current state of styli, and they said much the same. I've personally owned about four iPad styli and none come close to what I am capable of with an old Graphire. We need pressure sensitivity, finer resolution, and proper calibration for this to work well. Everyone wants to replace drawing stuff with iPad (including myself) but until iPad supports Wacom-esque pressure sensitivity, feel and resolution on iPad everything you do there will likely be too rough compared to what you could get with a Bamboo on Painter/Illustrator or what could be drawn directly on paper, scanned in and retraced with said Wacom. Even the Galaxy Note / Lenovo Tablet / etc. are better for this. [1] http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2012/03/does-the-stylus-still-blow-it-on-the-new-ipad.ars http://arstechnica.com/apple/reviews/2012/03/does-the-stylus...
- jacobolus 15y agoHas anyone tried one of these? http://adonit.net/product/jot-pro/ http://adonit.net/product/jot-pro/ It looks like a somewhat different design than all the other styluses, and so might work better, but I haven’t seen any direct reviews except their marketing material, which is hardly impartial.
- Zaheer 15y agoI have one. Same deal. Nothing comes close to classic pen and paper. I've actually stopped using it now as well.
- nullflux 15y agoYes. I own one. It is by far the best of the capacitive styli, hands down. It isn't perfect but is the closest thing you will get to perfect without dropping $100+ for something like the XO[1], which is a bit buggy from what I've seen and you are stuck with their software/SDK. I just won't pay an extra $150 for a stylus. At that point I might as well go the Wacom-equipped Android route. Even with the Adonit, though, iPad is still no match for a Wacom. It's not even close. Go on YouTube and just search for Adonit Jot Pro reviews. There are lots of impartial people and accurate action. [1] http://www.by-zero.com/ http://www.by-zero.com/
- le_isms 15y agoWow, this has the best paper-flipping ui I've ever seen, kudos!
- yogrish 15y agoUI is really Awesome. Good Job Guys.
- dybber 15y agoIs it limited to 9 colors or is it just me that can't figure out the right gesture? It also seems to lack a setting for brush size.
- greggman 15y agoI noticed that too but then I kind of felt like that's the point. Simple. Kind of like having a box of 9 crayons instead of a box if 200. The more options they give you the more time spent use them instead of drawing? At the same time though, I do wonder if the sketchbook UI is really the main point. Going through images 1 at a time or with a grid of thumbnails in Art Rage or Sketchbook is much more cumbersome than this one pinch to fold, flip to next page, tap, draw. It doesn't ask you to load or save, it just acts like paper which is quicker. I wonder of those other apps added that type of feature if the limited options would still be a positive or a negative.
- philwelch 15y agoI couldn't tell at first if this was an app or just a sarcastic advertisement for actual paper as an alternative to tablets. Maybe that doesn't say much for my powers of observation, but it's also a testament to the product. At first glance, a white iPad running this app is not unlike a pad of drawing paper. Good job.
- jcromartie 15y agoImagine the amount of work involved in making something look like paper. It really seems to border on a big waste of time. Computers can do lots of things paper can't, and paper can do lots of things computers can't. So why spend countless man- and machine-hours emulating minor details (grain, texture, absorption) of one in the other?
- rogerbinns 15y agoI still can't tell what the heck the product actually is. Is it a new tablet? A remanufactured iPad? Some sort of stylus. Some sort of app? Something offered by Tumblr?
- schiffern 15y agoIt's a drawing app for iPad.
- davidw 15y agoYeah, I thought it was competition for http://73primenumbers.com/ http://73primenumbers.com/ at first.
- darda 15y agoThis is amazing, I can't believe they don't charge for this!
- boxein 15y ago$2 per tool? This is not a free app, this is a bait-and-switch. Just charge $15 for the app, guys.
- mduvall 15y agoThis price model will motivate the developers to create products that exactly tailor all the needs of their users, and the users could potentially (and probably will) save money buying a subset of the products they deem necessary. A flat fee will make the developers focus on top X priorities, leaving a segment of the user base possibly out of luck.
- boxein 15y agoNo, it will motivate developers to create add-ons that cost $2 each. In general, your argument about a subset of products is reasonable. In a drawing app when you have to buy individual brushes it's scummy.
- ianthehenry 15y agoIf they had gone with the traditional free lite version / paid premium version model, you would lose all of your drawings when you upgraded. This is just a free trial for the real product which can be unlocked at any time with minimal friction. Personally, I prefer this to having to hunt in the app store for the "premium" version if I decide to make the switch. Doing this also gives the developers the option to introduce paid updates in the future, which is potentially good or bad.
- rbarooah 15y agoAs of iOS5, free and paid versions of apps (or any apps by the same developer) can share data, so the issue of losing data when upgrading has been solved. There is also no reason the developer can't link to the paid version direct from the app - no heed for hunting. I don't mind them charging in-app for features in principle. but I found that the free version wasn't enough for me to draw anything serious so it didn't really let me try out the app. I think it would have been better to go with a fully featured free version with say, just one notebook with limited pages. That way users could use the app fully, and upgrade if they used it enough to need more capacity.
- BklynJay 15y agoIt looks amazing and hats-off to the developers, but ultimately an app like this is limited by the lack of pressure response.
- ariannasimpson 15y agoBeautiful design!
- kristenlee 15y agoGreat app, guys. I love the design of the app and your website. Really fits the whole artistic New York hippie vibe. Keep up the good work and ignore the inevitable onslaught of negativity you read here...its par for course lately.
- epaga 15y agoJust downloaded it and gave it a spin with my Bamboo stylus. Here are my impressions, FWIW: * First impression: Nice tutorial, nice animations when picking a notebook. Great idea to do your app planning sketches as its own notebook. * First impression while writing: Nice inky strokes, I like the colors. * Second impression: Hmmm...this seems a bit laggy compared to Noteshelf or Penultimate. <flip over to those programs> Yup, definitely laggier (I have an iPad 2). Probably only a few milliseconds lag, but noticeable. * Third impression: I like the rewind interface instead of an undo button. Very cool. * Fourth impression: No zoom or magnifying glass? bummer. * Final decision: Nice, impressive, innovative UI but unfortunately especially the lagginess will cause this to not replace Noteshelf as my default go-to notebook. The lack of zoom is also a bummer, since with a magnifying glass you could add so much more detail, it makes up for the iPad's lack of pinpoint accuracy. 3.5/5 (edit: just realized i'm not on the app store so I can give decimal ratings :P) P.S. Also, a "hand guard" area to ignore touches as in Noteshelf would REALLY be nice to be able to draw without having to make sure you never touch the screen with your hand while drawing.
- rdw 15y agoI had incredible difficulty with the rewind/undo interface. Almost as often as I bring up the rewind UI, it'll do some other action instead, like drawing little dots, or zooming in/out, or bringing up/dismissing the tools palette. When the dialog is finally brought up, it doesn't respect my finger motions. I'll drag my one finger a full 360 around my other finger but the pie chart moves less than 5 degrees in total, jerkily. Or, it flaps forward and backward rapidly as I smoothly move my finger in one direction. Maybe there's a heuristic that's trying to pick a "pivot" finger and a "rotating" finger, and it's picking wrong each time. I dunno. Willing to give them the benefit of the doubt because the rest of the app is so well done, but, this brokenness of such a key feature makes a bad initial impression.
- julianwa 15y agoIt sounds as if you're rotating one finger around the other? The idea is to use two fingers together (like one big finger) to do a pan in a circular motion.
- tjbarbour 15y agoPIXAR animator @MR_Scribbles toying with it http://shfp.tumblr.com/tagged/MadeWithPaper http://shfp.tumblr.com/tagged/MadeWithPaper
- tjbarbour 15y agoAnd all of tumblr 'paper'ing http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/madewithpaper http://www.tumblr.com/tagged/madewithpaper
- melvinng 15y agoSo if Wacom starts supporting iPad with styluses, will you guys repurchase another iPad if you already had one?
- ghshephard 15y agoIn a heartbeat. A decent pressure sensitive iPad/droid/windows tablet for <$1000 would get my business tomorrow.
- covalence 15y agoIsn't the Samsung Slate 7 around 1k and uses a Wacom digitizer?
- seltzered_ 15y agoyes. I bought a thinkpad tablet specifically for pen input. It's not bad but you need a wacom stylus, as it allows for a feature I call "pre-write cueing" that simulates a shadow/cursor of where you're about to write. You also need a retina display. You stare much closer at the screen when writing and notice the pixelation much more closely.
- shashashasha 15y agoI haven't played with this yet, but have to say the video splash on http://www.fiftythree.com/ http://www.fiftythree.com/ 's homepage is awesome. So much more effective than some LaunchRock splash photo.
- seshagiric 15y agoI don't have an iPad but I can still appreciate the fact they will support using a stylus.
- phmagic 15y agoI actually don't like the rewind interface. It is an innovative way to use circular gestures, but it was frustrating to use. I'd rather have a circular context menu. I do like the moleskin feel to it and the graphics. Good work!
- calibwam 15y agoHow come the "nice designed" web sites is always the same, with the same font, large images, and soooo long to scroll. It's like a statement saying "we mind about design, we just don't have any creativity."
- keeeeeeeeen 15y agoGreat design, poor execution. Like most things Microsoft, Paper is too little way too late. Penultimate and Sketchbook Pro are superior, and have been around for a long while now. Paper brings absolutely nothing new to the table. Easily forgotten.
- joelrunyon 15y agoThis is the kind of thing that makes me want to learn to draw.
- kmfrk 15y agoThe app looks really, really cool, but I think this input lag demonstration by Microsoft has really spoilt me in the same way that I can no longer look at mobile devices without Retina and not cringe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvQCPLkPt4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOvQCPLkPt4
- reedlaw 15y agoWhat are the chances that real hardware response will get down to the 1ms range in the near future? I'm thinking that each interface, from the touch pad to the CPU to the display, will introduce significant lag.
- Shpigford 15y agoWhat stylus are they using in their promo video?
- sycren 15y agoIt looks really nice and well designed. I really want to see a MacOSX version of this, there are not really any good minimalistic drawing programs on the Mac app store yet..
- mathnode 15y agommm looks delicious. I have been an avid user of the Sketchbook Pro way-of-things since Studio Paint. I have ordered a stylus to try this on my girlfriends iPad.
- emehrkay 15y agoThe zoomed out view reminds me of the microsoft courier. Why hasnt anyone made that into an app?
- emehrkay 15y agoOh http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/29/2909537/paper-drawing-ipad-app-fiftythree-brains-behind-courier http://www.theverge.com/2012/3/29/2909537/paper-drawing-ipad... and again http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X41qLxp4QhE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X41qLxp4QhE
- karolisd 15y agoHow do I go back to the main menu?
- gfosco 15y agoPinch.
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- csteinbe 15y agoThis app is being reviewed / hyped by every MacBook/ iOS site. No matter how good the UI is, they have pulled off a massive PR coup. How did they do it?
- rdl 15y agoI'm curious about the bluetooth 4.0 LE pressure-sensitive stylus (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/03/blue-tiger-stylus/ http://www.ubergizmo.com/2012/03/blue-tiger-stylus/); I've started to get really excited about 4.0 LE for electronic leash and other applications.
- Porter_423 15y agoI've been exploring for a bit for any high-quality articles or blog posts in this sort of house
- smackfu 15y ago(Business hat) I wonder what would prompt someone to make yet another drawing app for the iPad? It's a fairly full space with entries from the major players, and the market of skilled artists is fairly small and is never going to blow up into a #1 hit.
- Criztoph 15y agoLOVE the rewind feature - nice work guys
- TimPC 15y agoIt seems to me the problem for detailed drawing is more of a hardware than a software problem at this point. It's very solvable on both sides it's a matter of timing the solution to hit the market when the major players in the pad space get to the right level of support for detailed styluses. Clever alternative input methods to take an end run around screen resolution would be amazing if they're accurate enough. I'd love to see someone give paper this 1 paper-cut.
- commieneko 15y agoBought this this morning. I'm a figurative artist, for over 30 years, and this is a very nice tool. Especially for a version 1.0. The stroke dynamics are very good, and I'm running this on a first generation iPad. I've been sketching with it off and on all day, and have really grown to like it. Things it needs: * Pinch zoom in and out. Gotta have this. It works great when you are drawing at the scale of the whole page, but detail work suffers as the sampling of the device isn't good enough. (Nor are my fingers! This is why artists and illustrators often draw and paint as large as possible.) When they add zooming, and they say on their website they are, they need to be sure and adjust the tool's scaling to match the view. * The limited color palette is fine, but I need to be able to pick the colors. * More tools are a given, especially since the program itself is free and they are making their money by selling extra tools. I've already plunked down my eight bucks for all that's available. The minimalist interface is fantastic. When you are drawing, and I'm speaking as a person who draws observationally, you want the tool to be as spacial and object oriented as possible. This doesn't mean you have to mimic "real world" drawing tools, but it does mean that the interface needs to not emphasize numerics and linguistics. The organization needs to be very simple; from a drawing point of view, if I have to drill down through a series of hierarchies I might has well type in menu selections from a command line. My attention needs to be on my subject and my drawing, not on a UI. YMMV.
- egypturnash 15y agoThis looks really, really nice. Gorgeous UI. But I kinda consider the ability to choose my own colors to be a critical feature in my drawing programs! BALEETED
- georgieporgie 15y agoGreat intro video. It really explained the app well and was in no way irritating (a rare feat for demo videos!).
- Typus 15y agoIt's funny how much more interesting drawing and writing become when you can do it electronically.
- EliRivers 15y agoFollow the link, watch the video that pops up... some guy walking around fiddling with a tablet. What's being sold here? The tablet? Some software? Services? No idea... watch for thirty seconds... still no idea... click the "about" button... more pictures of someone's shoes. Maybe they're selling shoes.