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The situation in Sweden is dire and everyone living in the west would do well to listen to the lack of sounds our canary is making. Decades, with an emphasis on

The situation in Sweden is dire and everyone living in the west would do well to listen to the lack of sounds our canary is making. Decades, with an emphasis on the last decade, of disastrous immigration policies have lead up to this and when the time has come to admit that the opposition to these policies was right all along. But instead only shallow dismissals of racism and bigotry are what you hear from establishment politicians and their followers. I have come to believe since a time ago that the only solution is a more or less revolutionary change in how our country is managed is the only way to solve the underlying issues of corruption and nepotism that we see in our governments right now. This situation also does not seem to be unique to my own country unfortunately, but rather indicative of the situation the entire west sits in. As times get more and more violent, the chances for a truly peaceful solution become smaller and smaller. It's high time to start looking at what in other times would have seemed like drastic solutions, like mass deportation. Beggars cannot be choosers when it comes to solving a problem of this scale, and at this late a stage of a frankly potentially terminal sickness.

dang_no_likie 3y ago
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gumballindie 3y ago
Were these caused by the same policies too: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Biker_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Biker_War Anyone that’s been to sweden can see how segregated some of these people lived for “decades”, and not by their choice. What i dont understand is why such countries advertise themselves as “welcoming” when in fact are pretty unwelcoming and closed. No wonder people struggle to integrate. People dont just appear from nowhere, they are being pulled by certain factors - one being that the swedish economy is supposedly advanced. Instead though, sweden, germany, etc want what they call “cheap labour” - a people living in perpetual poverty doing jobs “the locals dont want”. All masked by virtue signaling. Well it turns out the cheap labour doesnt want to live like a perpetual underclass and wants a way out. These criminal acts are just signs of desperation. I think they should be dealt with swiftly and boldly and the criminal element rooted out but people need to be given a real chance to integrate. Regardless, sweden is now a changed country and will remain so.
- Gud 3y ago
  This has nothing to do with cheap labor. This has everything to do with politicians doubling down on policies that don't work to save face, rather than to admit they were wrong. What is being done now is too little too late. The Swedes who are generally good people, will never do what is now required(mass deportation). Nordic Biker War? Where 10 people died in all of Scandinavia over a decade time? You think this is at all comparable? 10 people die on a W E E K L Y basis in Sweden, almost exclusively young migrant men(usually 2nd generation). Indeed, Sweden(=Swedish left wing and liberal politicians) should not have been pursuing this extreme policy of open borders from Africa and the Middle East. The Swedish people were never in favor of mass immigration, despite the amount of propaganda they were fed on a daily basis by SVT & SR(Swedish state broadcast).
  - wsatb 3y ago
    You gave no evidence as to why cheap labor has nothing to do with it. Poverty breeds violence, we know this. Sweden’s income inequality is growing fast. There is also loads of evidence in the USA that segregation breeds violence as well because they generally don’t receive equal public service. It’s all a cycle. You can’t bring people in without serving them fairly. Maybe their mistake was bringing in too many people and not the “wrong” people.
    - Gud 3y ago
      Swedens income equality is growing fast because they are continuously bringing in more people who can not and never will contribute to their economy. This will take generations to fix, if it is possible.
      - gumballindie 3y ago
        Those people simply can't contribute. But it's not because they don't want to, there isn't much to contribute towards. The swedish economy, as any corporate-socialist economy, isn't able to absorb people - unless of course they are "cheap" and two can replace one. And that's where the issue comes from. Some of those people have had enough of being an underclass and the only way out it appears is through crime. What else are they going to do? Start a business? Sell components to volvo and ikea? Those types of small businesses have been obliterated as in any country dominated by corporations. So these people can't contribute by working because there's no economic growth and can't start a business because state-private enterprises can't grow fast enough.

dang_no_likie 3y ago

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gumballindie 3y ago

Were these caused by the same policies too: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Biker_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Biker_War Anyone that’s been to sweden can see how segregated some of these people lived for “decades”, and not by their choice. What i dont understand is why such countries advertise themselves as “welcoming” when in fact are pretty unwelcoming and closed. No wonder people struggle to integrate. People dont just appear from nowhere, they are being pulled by certain factors - one being that the swedish economy is supposedly advanced. Instead though, sweden, germany, etc want what they call “cheap labour” - a people living in perpetual poverty doing jobs “the locals dont want”. All masked by virtue signaling. Well it turns out the cheap labour doesnt want to live like a perpetual underclass and wants a way out. These criminal acts are just signs of desperation. I think they should be dealt with swiftly and boldly and the criminal element rooted out but people need to be given a real chance to integrate. Regardless, sweden is now a changed country and will remain so.

Gud 3y ago
This has nothing to do with cheap labor. This has everything to do with politicians doubling down on policies that don't work to save face, rather than to admit they were wrong. What is being done now is too little too late. The Swedes who are generally good people, will never do what is now required(mass deportation). Nordic Biker War? Where 10 people died in all of Scandinavia over a decade time? You think this is at all comparable? 10 people die on a W E E K L Y basis in Sweden, almost exclusively young migrant men(usually 2nd generation). Indeed, Sweden(=Swedish left wing and liberal politicians) should not have been pursuing this extreme policy of open borders from Africa and the Middle East. The Swedish people were never in favor of mass immigration, despite the amount of propaganda they were fed on a daily basis by SVT & SR(Swedish state broadcast).
- wsatb 3y ago
  You gave no evidence as to why cheap labor has nothing to do with it. Poverty breeds violence, we know this. Sweden’s income inequality is growing fast. There is also loads of evidence in the USA that segregation breeds violence as well because they generally don’t receive equal public service. It’s all a cycle. You can’t bring people in without serving them fairly. Maybe their mistake was bringing in too many people and not the “wrong” people.
  - Gud 3y ago
    Swedens income equality is growing fast because they are continuously bringing in more people who can not and never will contribute to their economy. This will take generations to fix, if it is possible.
    - gumballindie 3y ago
      Those people simply can't contribute. But it's not because they don't want to, there isn't much to contribute towards. The swedish economy, as any corporate-socialist economy, isn't able to absorb people - unless of course they are "cheap" and two can replace one. And that's where the issue comes from. Some of those people have had enough of being an underclass and the only way out it appears is through crime. What else are they going to do? Start a business? Sell components to volvo and ikea? Those types of small businesses have been obliterated as in any country dominated by corporations. So these people can't contribute by working because there's no economic growth and can't start a business because state-private enterprises can't grow fast enough.