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(author here) I'm assuming because sync rights are complicated, and Epic didn't quite realise how complicated. But Songtradr literally does rights as its main b

(author here) I'm assuming because sync rights are complicated, and Epic didn't quite realise how complicated. But Songtradr literally does rights as its main business. So this would work like Epic outsourcing it to a specialist, with an extra step. I'm still boggling that Epic thought tiny independent record labels would be good for pressuring the union to stop. Tiny labels these days tend to be set up by musicians who work too hard and who likely have close personal knowledge of working shitty jobs. Epic really had NO IDEA.

hatsix 3y ago
I think you're exactly right. Epic thought that buying a music company would let them acquire what they needed to do sync... but sync doesn't matter for Bandcamp, so it was hard for them to align. (while I work for SongTradr, I know nothing of the acquisition, so this is just speculation)
- vintermann 3y ago
  Just hypothetically, if I wrote a Minecraft mod that replaced the in-game music with music from a streaming service (to be clear, one the user would need to have a subscription for, and authorize via the streaming service's OAuth API)... How sued would I get?
  - pbronez 3y ago
    Since that’s all client side, I don’t think sync rights come into it… unless you start streaming while playing the mod, in which case you have now synchronized the music to video and are in violation.
  - hatsix 3y ago
    the main concern here would be the streaming service. If the streaming service offers a full API for custom implementations, then you're probably fine. If, instead, you're using their non-public API, you'll probably get a Cease And Desist and your API keys revoked. Then, like the other response mentioned, there's the streaming aspect. You, probably won't get sued, but anyone that streams with that music will get muted on Twitch and Revenue Claimed on YT. Why build a minecraft mod for this, when you can just play music on your computer and turn off the minecraft music? A few hotkeys and you don't even have to swap screens to change the music.
    - vintermann 3y ago
      Music in games can be contextual, and it's more fun if you score that beforehand than stepping out and doing it as you go. You may also want to enjoy the score a map/modpack maker intended.
mgkimsal 3y ago
Buying songtradr to complement bandcamp might have been a better option, because they could then be making revenue from any other game that licensed via songtradr. ?

hatsix 3y ago

I think you're exactly right. Epic thought that buying a music company would let them acquire what they needed to do sync... but sync doesn't matter for Bandcamp, so it was hard for them to align. (while I work for SongTradr, I know nothing of the acquisition, so this is just speculation)

vintermann 3y ago
Just hypothetically, if I wrote a Minecraft mod that replaced the in-game music with music from a streaming service (to be clear, one the user would need to have a subscription for, and authorize via the streaming service's OAuth API)... How sued would I get?
- pbronez 3y ago
  Since that’s all client side, I don’t think sync rights come into it… unless you start streaming while playing the mod, in which case you have now synchronized the music to video and are in violation.
- hatsix 3y ago
  the main concern here would be the streaming service. If the streaming service offers a full API for custom implementations, then you're probably fine. If, instead, you're using their non-public API, you'll probably get a Cease And Desist and your API keys revoked. Then, like the other response mentioned, there's the streaming aspect. You, probably won't get sued, but anyone that streams with that music will get muted on Twitch and Revenue Claimed on YT. Why build a minecraft mod for this, when you can just play music on your computer and turn off the minecraft music? A few hotkeys and you don't even have to swap screens to change the music.
  - vintermann 3y ago
    Music in games can be contextual, and it's more fun if you score that beforehand than stepping out and doing it as you go. You may also want to enjoy the score a map/modpack maker intended.

mgkimsal 3y ago

Buying songtradr to complement bandcamp might have been a better option, because they could then be making revenue from any other game that licensed via songtradr. ?