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These sort of client/server game streaming systems are great modern alternatives to something like RDP. They take advantage of hardware accelerated h264 encodin

These sort of client/server game streaming systems are great modern alternatives to something like RDP. They take advantage of hardware accelerated h264 encoding to get fast video/audio transmission with fast input mapping. To me these seem like more modern, simpler alternatives to older remote desktop protocols as they are designed around modern hardware and one of the most demanding use cases, gaming. Seems like an easy win to me. RDP does have more features, but they seem mostly for niche/side things.

MenhirMike 3y ago
> RDP does have more features, but they seem mostly for niche/side things. Being able to copy/paste (including files!) between the host and client is pretty useful though.
- donmcronald 3y ago
  This is especially true for Hyper-V VMs without network connectivity. The enhanced session is RDP over a local socket (I think), so copying and pasting files via RDP becomes the best way to move files between your host and VM.
  - naikrovek 3y ago
    > session is RDP over a local socket (I think) my understanding is that it's done via shared memory, and if that's right, it's very close to, if not actually, an air gap.
- snapplebobapple 3y ago
  Thats broken in the sdl freerdp client (which is the one they recommend for wayland since they deprecated wlfreerdp). Its go8ng to be annoying for a while until sdl3 comes out and they code that bavk into the sdl client.
- viraptor 3y ago
  And it's just one specific implementation of the RDP channel. You can also share drives and printers, or write your own custom stream virtual channels.
npteljes 3y ago
Indeed. To remotely manage or service a computer, RDP is more suited for the purpose.
- eikenberry 3y ago
  To manage a remote computer I'd much rather use SSH than any desktop sharing protocol. IMO the CLI over SSH is much better suited to the task.
  - pdntspa 3y ago
    Unless you really like PowerShell, you probably don't want to be doing this on Windows Also setting up a good SSH server on Windows is a pain in the ass
    - jdboyd 3y ago
      For Windows Server 2019 and newer, as well as Windows 10 and 11, Microsoft now provides their own OpenSSH server for Windows, which I found to be pretty easy to set up, personally.
rrdharan 3y ago
Encode to video is how Chrome Remote Desktop works. The SunRay ALP protocol and NoMachine are actually the two best I’ve ever seen but have pretty much fallen by the wayside in modern times sadly.
rcarmo 3y ago
RDP can also do hardware-accelerated encoding: https://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2022/10/23/1700 https://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2022/10/23/1700 (tl;dr: use xorgxrdp-glamor)
pdntspa 3y ago
> RDP does have more features, but they seem mostly for niche/side things. I have seen people whose entire jobs live inside an RDP connection
- vijucat 3y ago
  Why, Sir, I have seen people whose entire jobs live inside this box called a "computer". Peculiar, to say the least.
pjmlp 3y ago
Proper RDP also does it, and does proper DirectX rendering, provides almost a local like development experience. Most consultants in regulated industries live in RDP sessions, instead of getting a customer provided laptop.

MenhirMike 3y ago

> RDP does have more features, but they seem mostly for niche/side things. Being able to copy/paste (including files!) between the host and client is pretty useful though.

donmcronald 3y ago
This is especially true for Hyper-V VMs without network connectivity. The enhanced session is RDP over a local socket (I think), so copying and pasting files via RDP becomes the best way to move files between your host and VM.
- naikrovek 3y ago
  > session is RDP over a local socket (I think) my understanding is that it's done via shared memory, and if that's right, it's very close to, if not actually, an air gap.
snapplebobapple 3y ago
Thats broken in the sdl freerdp client (which is the one they recommend for wayland since they deprecated wlfreerdp). Its go8ng to be annoying for a while until sdl3 comes out and they code that bavk into the sdl client.
viraptor 3y ago
And it's just one specific implementation of the RDP channel. You can also share drives and printers, or write your own custom stream virtual channels.

npteljes 3y ago

Indeed. To remotely manage or service a computer, RDP is more suited for the purpose.

eikenberry 3y ago
To manage a remote computer I'd much rather use SSH than any desktop sharing protocol. IMO the CLI over SSH is much better suited to the task.
- pdntspa 3y ago
  Unless you really like PowerShell, you probably don't want to be doing this on Windows Also setting up a good SSH server on Windows is a pain in the ass
  - jdboyd 3y ago
    For Windows Server 2019 and newer, as well as Windows 10 and 11, Microsoft now provides their own OpenSSH server for Windows, which I found to be pretty easy to set up, personally.

rrdharan 3y ago

Encode to video is how Chrome Remote Desktop works. The SunRay ALP protocol and NoMachine are actually the two best I’ve ever seen but have pretty much fallen by the wayside in modern times sadly.

rcarmo 3y ago

RDP can also do hardware-accelerated encoding: https://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2022/10/23/1700 https://taoofmac.com/space/blog/2022/10/23/1700 (tl;dr: use xorgxrdp-glamor)

pdntspa 3y ago

> RDP does have more features, but they seem mostly for niche/side things. I have seen people whose entire jobs live inside an RDP connection

vijucat 3y ago
Why, Sir, I have seen people whose entire jobs live inside this box called a "computer". Peculiar, to say the least.

pjmlp 3y ago

Proper RDP also does it, and does proper DirectX rendering, provides almost a local like development experience. Most consultants in regulated industries live in RDP sessions, instead of getting a customer provided laptop.