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So after being a long time lurker on HN, wrote my first comment and got downvoted, but don't know why I was downvoted, there were no comments. I prefer replying

by _rj 15y ago

So after being a long time lurker on HN, wrote my first comment and got downvoted, but don't know why I was downvoted, there were no comments. I prefer replying during disagreement and downvoting when a comment/post doesn't make sense or gets stretched in a different direction.

joccam 15y ago
Ditto. First comment(s) downvoted here too... by karma bigwig. I call it karma bullying. No explanation, aside from bigwig contradictions + downvoting. No real discussion, no arc of learning, no social reality check. Just a lot of specious scientific gobbledygook... and the karma bully downvoting. Hideous and abusive... especially to a first-timer. Also, YCHN has all sorts of (undocumented) nasty consequences for anyone unlucky enough to get bullied into negative territory, e.g.: throttling posts (so bullies automatically "win" discussion), effectively censoring victim, losing posts before posting, pretending posts show (but not showing them publically), losing posts even after "successful" posting, getting negative points from no discernible source, and ultimately... hellbanning (all new posts invisible) ≡ permanent (?) bully victim censorship regardless of content topic, quality, or timeliness. E.g., you can not read this post (if you can, please reply to it explaining where and how you read it). Then perhaps I'll know there's a recovery path from hellbanning. Otherwise, once a YCHN hellban karma bully victim, always a YCHN hellban karma bully victim. Net effect (as I gather): you can never recover from a ruthless negative karma bullying. Meanwhile the bullies get more karma for bullying. What a load of bullocks!-) One funny thing is that I didn't even know what was going on at the time. I was "learning the ropes." Unfortunately, I was too "slow" learning the ropes to know I was being ruthlessly bullied. I still do not know where all the -18 points come from. Even ignoring any positive points from a few posts before the hellbanning effect kicked in, I count only -14 points. I guess at YCHN, they're using new math or something. Now (still ignoring any positive points), if I count each of my four posts with negative points as a negative point, each, then I get another -4 points for "the" total of -18 points. But that's really pushing to find those missing -4 points. YCHN should make its "modes" explicit: Here are all your negative points; here's why you got negative points; here's where you became hellbanned (and define the term; I'd never heard of it before I became karma bully victim); and here's how you become un-hellbanned. Unfortunately, in a computer forest, noone can hear you scream. I.e., noone cares at YCHN --- YCHN hellbanning AI is smarter than humans, so humans do not need to care. Welcome to the Matrix. Really a laugh riot when you think of the negative spiral effects of YCHN from what is supposed to be such a karmic hotspot of technology news and activity. I suspect the programmer/designers are very proud of themselves. Laugh riot about sums up my YCHN experience from first interaction, indefinitely, and, without any fix for the current karma beartrap, forever.

by _rj 15y ago

joccam 15y ago

Ditto. First comment(s) downvoted here too... by karma bigwig. I call it karma bullying. No explanation, aside from bigwig contradictions + downvoting. No real discussion, no arc of learning, no social reality check. Just a lot of specious scientific gobbledygook... and the karma bully downvoting. Hideous and abusive... especially to a first-timer. Also, YCHN has all sorts of (undocumented) nasty consequences for anyone unlucky enough to get bullied into negative territory, e.g.: throttling posts (so bullies automatically "win" discussion), effectively censoring victim, losing posts before posting, pretending posts show (but not showing them publically), losing posts even after "successful" posting, getting negative points from no discernible source, and ultimately... hellbanning (all new posts invisible) ≡ permanent (?) bully victim censorship regardless of content topic, quality, or timeliness. E.g., you can not read this post (if you can, please reply to it explaining where and how you read it). Then perhaps I'll know there's a recovery path from hellbanning. Otherwise, once a YCHN hellban karma bully victim, always a YCHN hellban karma bully victim. Net effect (as I gather): you can never recover from a ruthless negative karma bullying. Meanwhile the bullies get more karma for bullying. What a load of bullocks!-) One funny thing is that I didn't even know what was going on at the time. I was "learning the ropes." Unfortunately, I was too "slow" learning the ropes to know I was being ruthlessly bullied. I still do not know where all the -18 points come from. Even ignoring any positive points from a few posts before the hellbanning effect kicked in, I count only -14 points. I guess at YCHN, they're using new math or something. Now (still ignoring any positive points), if I count each of my four posts with negative points as a negative point, each, then I get another -4 points for "the" total of -18 points. But that's really pushing to find those missing -4 points. YCHN should make its "modes" explicit: Here are all your negative points; here's why you got negative points; here's where you became hellbanned (and define the term; I'd never heard of it before I became karma bully victim); and here's how you become un-hellbanned. Unfortunately, in a computer forest, noone can hear you scream. I.e., noone cares at YCHN --- YCHN hellbanning AI is smarter than humans, so humans do not need to care. Welcome to the Matrix. Really a laugh riot when you think of the negative spiral effects of YCHN from what is supposed to be such a karmic hotspot of technology news and activity. I suspect the programmer/designers are very proud of themselves. Laugh riot about sums up my YCHN experience from first interaction, indefinitely, and, without any fix for the current karma beartrap, forever.