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Another thing to notice: they use the highly nonstandard time zone abbreviation “PDT”. This works because they’re a US-only airline but if an international airl

by benced 3y ago

Another thing to notice: they use the highly nonstandard time zone abbreviation “PDT”. This works because they’re a US-only airline but if an international airline did this, they’d be in for a world of hurt.

xxpor 3y ago
PDT is extremely standard? http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/zoneinfo.tzc?s=default&tz=PST8PDT http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/zoneinfo.tzc?s=defa... Granted, I think everything should always be a UTC offset, but I'm also weird.
everly 3y ago
Is it really "highly nonstandard"? I thought it referred to Pacific Time during daylight savings. The rest of the time being PST (Pacific Standard Time).
wil421 3y ago
> Specifically, time in this zone is referred to as Pacific Standard Time (PST) when standard time is being observed (early November to mid-March), and Pacific Daylight Time (PDT) when daylight saving time (mid-March to early November) is being observed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Time_Zone#:~:text=Specifically%2C%20time%20in%20this%20zone,early%20November)%20is%20being%20observed https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Time_Zone#:~:text=Sp.... What do you think is the correct format?
kube-system 3y ago
Southwest has international routes now to popular vacation destinations south of the US.
jdminhbg 3y ago
> This works because they’re a US-only airline They're not US-only (note that the response included a value for whether it was a non-US-including flight), but they are North/Central America/Caribbean-only.
recursive 3y ago
How much more standard can it get? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Time_Zone# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Time_Zone# https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/ https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/
benced 3y ago
To anyone claiming they're standard: > Time zones are often represented by alphabetic abbreviations such as "EST", "WST", and "CST", but these are not part of the international time and date standard ISO 8601 and their use as sole designator for a time zone is discouraged. > Such designations predate both ISO 8601 and the internet era; in an earlier era, they were sufficiently unambiguous for many practical uses within a national context (for example, in railway timetables and business correspondence), but their ambiguity explains their deprecation in the internet era, when communications more often cannot rely on implicit geographic context to supply part of the meaning. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_time_zone_abbreviations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_time_zone_abbreviation... Turns out PST and PDT are safe (no one else seems to use them) but something like CST is not: it could mean Central Standard Time (America/Chicago during standard time) or several other choices like China Standard Time (Asia/Shanghai). Ambiguity is bad.

by benced 3y ago

xxpor 3y ago

PDT is extremely standard? http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/zoneinfo.tzc?s=default&tz=PST8PDT http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/zoneinfo.tzc?s=defa... Granted, I think everything should always be a UTC offset, but I'm also weird.

everly 3y ago

Is it really "highly nonstandard"? I thought it referred to Pacific Time during daylight savings. The rest of the time being PST (Pacific Standard Time).

wil421 3y ago

> Specifically, time in this zone is referred to as Pacific Standard Time (PST) when standard time is being observed (early November to mid-March), and Pacific Daylight Time (PDT) when daylight saving time (mid-March to early November) is being observed. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Time_Zone#:~:text=Specifically%2C%20time%20in%20this%20zone,early%20November)%20is%20being%20observed https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Time_Zone#:~:text=Sp.... What do you think is the correct format?

kube-system 3y ago

Southwest has international routes now to popular vacation destinations south of the US.

jdminhbg 3y ago

> This works because they’re a US-only airline They're not US-only (note that the response included a value for whether it was a non-US-including flight), but they are North/Central America/Caribbean-only.

recursive 3y ago

How much more standard can it get? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Time_Zone# https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pacific_Time_Zone# https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/ https://www.timeanddate.com/time/zones/

benced 3y ago

To anyone claiming they're standard: > Time zones are often represented by alphabetic abbreviations such as "EST", "WST", and "CST", but these are not part of the international time and date standard ISO 8601 and their use as sole designator for a time zone is discouraged. > Such designations predate both ISO 8601 and the internet era; in an earlier era, they were sufficiently unambiguous for many practical uses within a national context (for example, in railway timetables and business correspondence), but their ambiguity explains their deprecation in the internet era, when communications more often cannot rely on implicit geographic context to supply part of the meaning. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_time_zone_abbreviations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_time_zone_abbreviation... Turns out PST and PDT are safe (no one else seems to use them) but something like CST is not: it could mean Central Standard Time (America/Chicago during standard time) or several other choices like China Standard Time (Asia/Shanghai). Ambiguity is bad.