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And he'd blame Valve, too. EGS might be great for devs, but it's not good for users. It's not a big conspiracy against him. People just don't want to use the st

by bpiche 3y ago

And he'd blame Valve, too. EGS might be great for devs, but it's not good for users. It's not a big conspiracy against him. People just don't want to use the store! Whining in the face of obvious failure makes you look like a real loser.

spywaregorilla 3y ago
Can you show evidence of him "blaming" Valve? I'm not aware of that. And it appears as though you are criticizing his character based on a behavior he didn't do. Off the top of my head I can think of him saying the Valve Steamdeck is great: https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1415755678849900546 https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/141575567884990054... And him saying that Valve not demanding crossplay is bad.
- klik99 3y ago
  Yes, this. I was going to reply with the same thing but thought it wasn't worth. There is a lot of hate towards Epic due to EGS, which I get - but Tim has never said anything about losing income due to other stores existing. Sure he's said a lot of bad things about Apple, but never about Valve. He's actually a really good guy, all the hate towards him really irks me - fine, hate the epic game store, I don't personally but I get it, all this world building where he becomes this stupid generic money grubbing CEO is just wrong. It's just reddit echo chamber stuff.
  - spywaregorilla 3y ago
    Same. Bugs me a lot. I dislike the EGS. I dislike Fortnite. But Epic is one of the most dev-friendly companies in the world. And in my opinion they're constantly pushing in the right direction on things. Maybe not without prompting. But still. * Online multiplayer must have crossplay * Anti platform monopolists lawsuits * Source available engine * No lootboxes * Over a hundred million dollars to Ukraine * $250k to Godot for open source graphics It's one of the few companies I'm actually rooting for.
  - MikusR 3y ago
    When Microsoft announced Windows Store he was one of the biggest fud spreaders about it. And everyone was praising him about it.
    - klik99 3y ago
      your use of fud indicates that you are old enough to remember 90s microsoft so I'm surprised that you don't feel a huge dollop of skepticism was warranted for the windows store. If you weren't active in the 90s, then I can understand not getting just how anti-competitive MS had a strong history of being - now that we truly have a "new microsoft" these days.
  - tru1ock 3y ago
    I used to play Rocket League on linux through steam. Epic killed that. They are very bad for linux gaming and I avoid anything Epic like the plague.
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- bpiche 3y ago
  Sure, I google'd it for you https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-games-store-self-publishing/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-games-store-self-publishing/?ut... https://www.pcgamesn.com/shenmue-3/steam-key https://www.pcgamesn.com/shenmue-3/steam-key https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/t1ws13/tim_sweeney_valve_bans_crypto_to_ensure_it_gets/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/t1ws13/tim_sweene...
  - spywaregorilla 3y ago
    I strongly agree with the merit of the first link's argument. Cross play is important. The second one seems reasonable, factually accurate, and not a big deal. I dislike the third argument regarding crypto because I think crypto is trash, but I do think Steam's (and many others) 30% cut of transactions is predatory vs. Epic's 12%. I also think it is predatory to require that games use the Steam Wallet for in app purchases meaning that steam gets a cut. None of these are blaming Valve for being successful.
    - bpiche 3y ago
      Tim's saying that Valve not supporting cross play is 'classic lock-in' That's absolutely blame to me, but you're entitled to your own interpretation
      - spywaregorilla 3y ago
        I strongly agree that it is anti-competitive and anti-consumer to not allow crossplay. That's not blaming Valve for being successful. That's calling them out for anti-consume practices.
        bpiche 3y ago
        That's a fine opinion to have. Carry on.
        3y ago
HDThoreaun 3y ago
Epic games store has been pretty good for me

by bpiche 3y ago

spywaregorilla 3y ago

Can you show evidence of him "blaming" Valve? I'm not aware of that. And it appears as though you are criticizing his character based on a behavior he didn't do. Off the top of my head I can think of him saying the Valve Steamdeck is great: https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1415755678849900546 https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/141575567884990054... And him saying that Valve not demanding crossplay is bad.

klik99 3y ago
Yes, this. I was going to reply with the same thing but thought it wasn't worth. There is a lot of hate towards Epic due to EGS, which I get - but Tim has never said anything about losing income due to other stores existing. Sure he's said a lot of bad things about Apple, but never about Valve. He's actually a really good guy, all the hate towards him really irks me - fine, hate the epic game store, I don't personally but I get it, all this world building where he becomes this stupid generic money grubbing CEO is just wrong. It's just reddit echo chamber stuff.
- spywaregorilla 3y ago
  Same. Bugs me a lot. I dislike the EGS. I dislike Fortnite. But Epic is one of the most dev-friendly companies in the world. And in my opinion they're constantly pushing in the right direction on things. Maybe not without prompting. But still. * Online multiplayer must have crossplay * Anti platform monopolists lawsuits * Source available engine * No lootboxes * Over a hundred million dollars to Ukraine * $250k to Godot for open source graphics It's one of the few companies I'm actually rooting for.
- MikusR 3y ago
  When Microsoft announced Windows Store he was one of the biggest fud spreaders about it. And everyone was praising him about it.
  - klik99 3y ago
    your use of fud indicates that you are old enough to remember 90s microsoft so I'm surprised that you don't feel a huge dollop of skepticism was warranted for the windows store. If you weren't active in the 90s, then I can understand not getting just how anti-competitive MS had a strong history of being - now that we truly have a "new microsoft" these days.
- tru1ock 3y ago
  I used to play Rocket League on linux through steam. Epic killed that. They are very bad for linux gaming and I avoid anything Epic like the plague.
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bpiche 3y ago
Sure, I google'd it for you https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-games-store-self-publishing/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-games-store-self-publishing/?ut... https://www.pcgamesn.com/shenmue-3/steam-key https://www.pcgamesn.com/shenmue-3/steam-key https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/t1ws13/tim_sweeney_valve_bans_crypto_to_ensure_it_gets/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/t1ws13/tim_sweene...
- spywaregorilla 3y ago
  I strongly agree with the merit of the first link's argument. Cross play is important. The second one seems reasonable, factually accurate, and not a big deal. I dislike the third argument regarding crypto because I think crypto is trash, but I do think Steam's (and many others) 30% cut of transactions is predatory vs. Epic's 12%. I also think it is predatory to require that games use the Steam Wallet for in app purchases meaning that steam gets a cut. None of these are blaming Valve for being successful.
  - bpiche 3y ago
    Tim's saying that Valve not supporting cross play is 'classic lock-in' That's absolutely blame to me, but you're entitled to your own interpretation
    - spywaregorilla 3y ago
      I strongly agree that it is anti-competitive and anti-consumer to not allow crossplay. That's not blaming Valve for being successful. That's calling them out for anti-consume practices.
      - bpiche 3y ago
        That's a fine opinion to have. Carry on.
        3y ago

HDThoreaun 3y ago

Epic games store has been pretty good for me