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Is this my fault because of all the free games I claimed?

by BadBadJellyBean 3y ago

voisin 3y ago
Tim Sweeney would like us all to agree that it is Apple’s fault for their App Store policies.
- bpiche 3y ago
  And he'd blame Valve, too. EGS might be great for devs, but it's not good for users. It's not a big conspiracy against him. People just don't want to use the store! Whining in the face of obvious failure makes you look like a real loser.
  - spywaregorilla 3y ago
    Can you show evidence of him "blaming" Valve? I'm not aware of that. And it appears as though you are criticizing his character based on a behavior he didn't do. Off the top of my head I can think of him saying the Valve Steamdeck is great: https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1415755678849900546 https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/141575567884990054... And him saying that Valve not demanding crossplay is bad.
    - klik99 3y ago
      Yes, this. I was going to reply with the same thing but thought it wasn't worth. There is a lot of hate towards Epic due to EGS, which I get - but Tim has never said anything about losing income due to other stores existing. Sure he's said a lot of bad things about Apple, but never about Valve. He's actually a really good guy, all the hate towards him really irks me - fine, hate the epic game store, I don't personally but I get it, all this world building where he becomes this stupid generic money grubbing CEO is just wrong. It's just reddit echo chamber stuff.
      - spywaregorilla 3y ago
        Same. Bugs me a lot. I dislike the EGS. I dislike Fortnite. But Epic is one of the most dev-friendly companies in the world. And in my opinion they're constantly pushing in the right direction on things. Maybe not without prompting. But still. * Online multiplayer must have crossplay * Anti platform monopolists lawsuits * Source available engine * No lootboxes * Over a hundred million dollars to Ukraine * $250k to Godot for open source graphics It's one of the few companies I'm actually rooting for.
      - MikusR 3y ago
        When Microsoft announced Windows Store he was one of the biggest fud spreaders about it. And everyone was praising him about it.
        klik99 3y ago
        your use of fud indicates that you are old enough to remember 90s microsoft so I'm surprised that you don't feel a huge dollop of skepticism was warranted for the windows store. If you weren't active in the 90s, then I can understand not getting just how anti-competitive MS had a strong history of being - now that we truly have a "new microsoft" these days.
      - tru1ock 3y ago
        I used to play Rocket League on linux through steam. Epic killed that. They are very bad for linux gaming and I avoid anything Epic like the plague.
        deleted 3y ago
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    - bpiche 3y ago
      Sure, I google'd it for you https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-games-store-self-publishing/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-games-store-self-publishing/?ut... https://www.pcgamesn.com/shenmue-3/steam-key https://www.pcgamesn.com/shenmue-3/steam-key https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/t1ws13/tim_sweeney_valve_bans_crypto_to_ensure_it_gets/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/t1ws13/tim_sweene...
      - spywaregorilla 3y ago
        I strongly agree with the merit of the first link's argument. Cross play is important. The second one seems reasonable, factually accurate, and not a big deal. I dislike the third argument regarding crypto because I think crypto is trash, but I do think Steam's (and many others) 30% cut of transactions is predatory vs. Epic's 12%. I also think it is predatory to require that games use the Steam Wallet for in app purchases meaning that steam gets a cut. None of these are blaming Valve for being successful.
        bpiche 3y ago
        Tim's saying that Valve not supporting cross play is 'classic lock-in' That's absolutely blame to me, but you're entitled to your own interpretation
        spywaregorilla 3y ago
        I strongly agree that it is anti-competitive and anti-consumer to not allow crossplay. That's not blaming Valve for being successful. That's calling them out for anti-consume practices.
        bpiche 3y ago
        That's a fine opinion to have. Carry on.
        3y ago
  - HDThoreaun 3y ago
    Epic games store has been pretty good for me
- madeofpalk 3y ago
  How much revenue do we believe Epic Games lost due to them not being on iOS or Android anymore?
  - rstat1 3y ago
    They're still on Android because of side-loading, so probably not as much as they'd want you to believe.
enbugger 3y ago
Expect to be charged for their full price retroactively :)
- homarp 3y ago
  especially if they were made with Unity
- spywaregorilla 3y ago
  Why would you say this?
- iwonthecase 3y ago
  You joke, but I could see Epic one day being like "if your EGS account only has free purchases and you've never actually paid for anything, your account/games will be removed in 30 days."
ProllyInfamous 3y ago
Dude my GTAV (for FREE) is gun'be'lit. No ragrats!
jzl 3y ago
They pay a flat fee per free game, or at least did: https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/4/22418782/epic-games-store-free-games-cost-apple-trial-arkham-subnautica-mutant-year-zero https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/4/22418782/epic-games-store-...

Is this my fault because of all the free games I claimed?

voisin 3y ago

Tim Sweeney would like us all to agree that it is Apple’s fault for their App Store policies.

bpiche 3y ago
And he'd blame Valve, too. EGS might be great for devs, but it's not good for users. It's not a big conspiracy against him. People just don't want to use the store! Whining in the face of obvious failure makes you look like a real loser.
- spywaregorilla 3y ago
  Can you show evidence of him "blaming" Valve? I'm not aware of that. And it appears as though you are criticizing his character based on a behavior he didn't do. Off the top of my head I can think of him saying the Valve Steamdeck is great: https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/1415755678849900546 https://twitter.com/TimSweeneyEpic/status/141575567884990054... And him saying that Valve not demanding crossplay is bad.
  - klik99 3y ago
    Yes, this. I was going to reply with the same thing but thought it wasn't worth. There is a lot of hate towards Epic due to EGS, which I get - but Tim has never said anything about losing income due to other stores existing. Sure he's said a lot of bad things about Apple, but never about Valve. He's actually a really good guy, all the hate towards him really irks me - fine, hate the epic game store, I don't personally but I get it, all this world building where he becomes this stupid generic money grubbing CEO is just wrong. It's just reddit echo chamber stuff.
    - spywaregorilla 3y ago
      Same. Bugs me a lot. I dislike the EGS. I dislike Fortnite. But Epic is one of the most dev-friendly companies in the world. And in my opinion they're constantly pushing in the right direction on things. Maybe not without prompting. But still. * Online multiplayer must have crossplay * Anti platform monopolists lawsuits * Source available engine * No lootboxes * Over a hundred million dollars to Ukraine * $250k to Godot for open source graphics It's one of the few companies I'm actually rooting for.
    - MikusR 3y ago
      When Microsoft announced Windows Store he was one of the biggest fud spreaders about it. And everyone was praising him about it.
      - klik99 3y ago
        your use of fud indicates that you are old enough to remember 90s microsoft so I'm surprised that you don't feel a huge dollop of skepticism was warranted for the windows store. If you weren't active in the 90s, then I can understand not getting just how anti-competitive MS had a strong history of being - now that we truly have a "new microsoft" these days.
    - tru1ock 3y ago
      I used to play Rocket League on linux through steam. Epic killed that. They are very bad for linux gaming and I avoid anything Epic like the plague.
      - deleted 3y ago
        [deleted]
  - bpiche 3y ago
    Sure, I google'd it for you https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-games-store-self-publishing/?utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social https://www.pcgamer.com/epic-games-store-self-publishing/?ut... https://www.pcgamesn.com/shenmue-3/steam-key https://www.pcgamesn.com/shenmue-3/steam-key https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/t1ws13/tim_sweeney_valve_bans_crypto_to_ensure_it_gets/ https://www.reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/t1ws13/tim_sweene...
    - spywaregorilla 3y ago
      I strongly agree with the merit of the first link's argument. Cross play is important. The second one seems reasonable, factually accurate, and not a big deal. I dislike the third argument regarding crypto because I think crypto is trash, but I do think Steam's (and many others) 30% cut of transactions is predatory vs. Epic's 12%. I also think it is predatory to require that games use the Steam Wallet for in app purchases meaning that steam gets a cut. None of these are blaming Valve for being successful.
      - bpiche 3y ago
        Tim's saying that Valve not supporting cross play is 'classic lock-in' That's absolutely blame to me, but you're entitled to your own interpretation
        spywaregorilla 3y ago
        I strongly agree that it is anti-competitive and anti-consumer to not allow crossplay. That's not blaming Valve for being successful. That's calling them out for anti-consume practices.
        bpiche 3y ago
        That's a fine opinion to have. Carry on.
        3y ago
- HDThoreaun 3y ago
  Epic games store has been pretty good for me
madeofpalk 3y ago
How much revenue do we believe Epic Games lost due to them not being on iOS or Android anymore?
- rstat1 3y ago
  They're still on Android because of side-loading, so probably not as much as they'd want you to believe.

enbugger 3y ago

Expect to be charged for their full price retroactively :)

homarp 3y ago
especially if they were made with Unity
spywaregorilla 3y ago
Why would you say this?
iwonthecase 3y ago
You joke, but I could see Epic one day being like "if your EGS account only has free purchases and you've never actually paid for anything, your account/games will be removed in 30 days."

ProllyInfamous 3y ago

Dude my GTAV (for FREE) is gun'be'lit. No ragrats!

jzl 3y ago

They pay a flat fee per free game, or at least did: https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/4/22418782/epic-games-store-free-games-cost-apple-trial-arkham-subnautica-mutant-year-zero https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/4/22418782/epic-games-store-...