>Pretty much any moral rule you can name has been proudly broken. Eg, torture? >Take Abu Ghraib for instance. Not only was it done, but it was done proudly, wi

>Pretty much any moral rule you can name has been proudly broken. Eg, torture? >Take Abu Ghraib for instance. Not only was it done, but it was done proudly, with >selfies taken for remembering the "good times" later" Sure, can happen, but THIS was recognized as a CRIME by the -culture- we have, and some individuals forget/broken/ignored! And a decadent society/culture can be flooed with this also, and loose the capacity to condems this. I don't mix single fact/events with the main argument, the organized/ritual/specific use of the -force- is universal in quite al cultures, is buiding some kind of order in the chaos, the uncontrolled violence is a crime in quite same every culture, because is disrupting the order.